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evie dee
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 6 2007, 05:08 PM) *

Some piccies from the new video wub.gif

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Craig - Welcome home my son -
Brad - Do they see me, i hope they like my Sex face! -

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Craig - Oh my god, it's my wife's bday today !!! - laugh.gif Sorry

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Hamish - Rock on kids -
Ryan - Mmmm ...

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Hamish - Yep, it's me, bitches .. Ham-Ham! -

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Craig - Uh Uh Uh ... I'm laughing my ass off ! -
Hamish - I know, that makes me laugh too -
Ryan - What did I say again? -
Brad - Yeah, Uh Uh ... hum ... what's the joke? blink.gif -

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Vines guys - See how cute we are, awww -

Edit: Sorry, had to delete my last useless post!

And Erin, here's the linkie http://thevines.forumsunlimited.com/index....mp;#entry558240
You have to be a member of the DTI site to see the vid !

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Craig's cute in all of them.
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evie dee
QUOTE(Erin @ Mar 6 2007, 04:27 PM) *

I don't, but i have this similar one, craig's cardigan is so cute..and look where patricks beer is huh.gif
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And Ryan is wearing a black and white stripped shirt! confused0006.gif His red and black one must have been in the laundry that day.

QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 6 2007, 05:23 PM) *


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Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 6 2007, 12:08 PM) *

Some piccies from the new video wub.gif

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Craig - Welcome home my son -
Brad - Do they see me, i hope they like my Sex face! -

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Craig - Oh my god, it's my wife's bday today !!! - laugh.gif Sorry

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Hamish - Rock on kids -
Ryan - Mmmm ...

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Hamish - Yep, it's me, bitches .. Ham-Ham! -

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Craig - Uh Uh Uh ... I'm laughing my ass off ! -
Hamish - I know, that makes me laugh too -
Ryan - What did I say again? -
Brad - Yeah, Uh Uh ... hum ... what's the joke? blink.gif -

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Vines guys - See how cute we are, awww -


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QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 6 2007, 12:23 PM) *


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Oooh! ohmy.gif

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MisplacedKeys

QUOTE(evie dee @ Mar 6 2007, 11:56 PM) *

drool.gif 490.gif wub.gif
And Ryan is wearing a black and white stripped shirt! confused0006.gif His red and black one must have been in the laundry that day.

laugh.gif laugh.gif Good one.
I bet the pic was photoshopped, though. Someone must've painted red stripes white to make us think Ryan doesn't wear same clothes until they eventually rot on him, when in fact he does.
You ain't foolin anyone with these kinds of cheap tricks. tongue.gif
Also, who actually believes that the red&black shirt has ever been in the laundry? The best scenario: he threw it next to his reptiles' cage and forget about it for awhile. wink.gif
evie dee
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Mar 6 2007, 08:19 PM) *

laugh.gif laugh.gif Good one.
I bet the pic was photoshopped, though. Someone must've painted red stripes white to make us think Ryan doesn't wear same clothes until they eventually rot on him, when in fact he does.
You ain't foolin anyone with these kinds of cheap tricks. tongue.gif
laugh.gif laugh.gif Good one.
I bet the pic was photoshopped, though. Someone must've painted red stripes white to make us think Ryan doesn't wear same clothes until they eventually rot on him, when in fact he does.
You ain't foolin anyone with these kinds of cheap tricks. tongue.gif
Also, who actually believes that the red&black shirt has ever been in the laundry? The best scenario: he threw it next to his reptiles' cage and forget about it for awhile. wink.gif

It stands out. laugh.gif
SaraGriffiths
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 6 2007, 09:08 PM) *

Some piccies from the new video wub.gif

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Craig - Welcome home my son -
Brad - Do they see me, i hope they like my Sex face! -

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Craig - Oh my god, it's my wife's bday today !!! - laugh.gif Sorry

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Hamish - Rock on kids -
Ryan - Mmmm ...

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Hamish - Yep, it's me, bitches .. Ham-Ham! -

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Craig - Uh Uh Uh ... I'm laughing my ass off ! -
Hamish - I know, that makes me laugh too -
Ryan - What did I say again? -
Brad - Yeah, Uh Uh ... hum ... what's the joke? blink.gif -

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Vines guys - See how cute we are, awww -

Edit: Sorry, had to delete my last useless post!

And Erin, here's the linkie http://thevines.forumsunlimited.com/index....mp;#entry558240
You have to be a member of the DTI site to see the vid !

And you can send the video by yousendit? Or someone?
marilyn_monroe
QUOTE(Erin @ Mar 7 2007, 05:27 AM) *

I don't, but i have this similar one, craig's cardigan is so cute..and look where patricks beer is huh.gif
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NATALIE IMBRUGLIA


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edit: sara: the video is streamed online and I doubt anyone ripped it yet...here's the link: http://www.dreamintheinsane.com/member-onl...ets/tickets.htm you might need to log into dti to get to the page and it's at the bottom wink.gif
Sexhair
I want to watch that video but I have yet to be accepted. It's been a month and I haven't gotten an email saying that I have been accepted. I emailed the person that runs the site. I wanna see.. tongue.gif
gigi
QUOTE(Jessica @ Mar 7 2007, 03:47 PM) *

I want to watch that video but I have yet to be accepted. It's been a month and I haven't gotten an email saying that I have been accepted. I emailed the person that runs the site. I wanna see.. tongue.gif

DTI doesn't seem to like gmail. I had to use my MSN address. So if you used a gmail address, that could be the problem.
gigi
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Mar 7 2007, 07:09 AM) *

laugh.gif Well, I did offer the most logical explanation. tongue.gif

Yes ma'am, you did! tongue.gif
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Mar 7 2007, 07:09 AM) *

Yes, and her name is Ryan Griffiths.

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QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Mar 7 2007, 07:09 AM) *

No, Craig doesn't have a wife. He never even showed any bigger interest in girls, according to some resources.

"I don't think so. I'm too dumb to recognize anything. I'm kind of dull and slow." -- Craig on girls hitting on him

"Women respect a man who can wash himself." -- Craig in Rolling Stone September 2002

"If I wasn't doing this I'd be able to have a girlfriend but I'd be put in a mental institute if I wasn't doing music. I don't want to meet a girlfriend in there." -- Craig on his favorite topic

"Love. It's too hard. That's why I listen to music." -- Craig Nicholls on love

mary_jane83
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Mar 6 2007, 09:23 PM) *

And, Craig's wife? We all know Craig would never say such a thing. handsfoldedsign42.gif
unsure.gif Actually, he was my husband for one day. You have to accept the fact that he spent the day with me for my bday tongue.gif Well, now he's gone crying.gif






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QUOTE(mariafromguam @ Mar 6 2007, 09:33 PM) *

Sing her a song, Craig!!!
laugh.gif Haha! I want to dance with him along a slow song ... along autumn shade II that he would whisper in my ears quietly wub.gif

QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Mar 6 2007, 09:40 PM) *

Cécile, these are for you:
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hail.gif Awesooome. Merciiiii hug.gif

QUOTE(Erin @ Mar 6 2007, 10:02 PM) *

Thanks Cecile...Your messing when you say craig has a wife???! right? huh.gif
laugh.gif Haha! Don't worry, that is just my dream was just a joke!

QUOTE(evie dee @ Mar 6 2007, 11:56 PM) *

And Ryan is wearing a black and white stripped shirt!
We have the same tee w00t.gif

QUOTE(mariafromguam @ Mar 7 2007, 09:23 AM) *

"I don't think so. I'm too dumb to recognize anything. I'm kind of dull and slow." -- Craig on girls hitting on him
I think you're right Craig. Half of the girls in the world would kill to be your wife girlfriend and you don't see it tongue.gif

QUOTE(mariafromguam @ Mar 7 2007, 09:23 AM) *

"Women respect a man who can wash himself." -- Craig in Rolling Stone September 2002
I respect you Craig! Even if you can't wash yourself, i'd certainly do it for you ph34r.gif



Sorry, i had to ;____________;
gigi
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 7 2007, 08:44 PM) *

I respect you Craig! Even if you can't wash yourself, i'd certainly do it for you ph34r.gif

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thePotIntheGarden
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Mar 6 2007, 04:09 PM) *

No, Craig doesn't have a wife. He never even showed any bigger interest in girls, according to some resources.



Right, Ursa, so the explanation is blatant to the world once again: He doesn't like females, he never has, and never will...meanwhile, Ryan's been in his life since childhood... laugh.gif
mary_jane83
Oh, that was rude crying.gif
Sexhair
Since we are on the subject of Craig and his lovelife...

He's in a relationship with Irene Ross since August 2006.

According to Wikipeia. Anyone know who she is?

We are soo offtopic... so I will make it right again...

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QUOTE(Jessica @ Mar 7 2007, 03:54 PM) *

Since we are on the subject of Craig and his lovelife...

He's in a relationship with Irene Ross since August 2006.

According to Wikipeia. Anyone know who she is?


Most likely some random fangirl edited the Wiki page and placed her name there. Nothing to worry about... except maybe their mental health.
mary_jane83
HE IS NOT WITH THIS IRENE ROSS
He doesn't have any girlfriend, trust me! Fred is totally right.
Sexhair
Ohh.. okay. I was kind of thinking that too. I didn't say anything because I didn't want y'all to think that I was in denial or somethin'. Hahaha. Whoever edited it took out the McDonald's stuff too. Hmm...
MisplacedKeys
^^ About that Irene Ross thingy ... it just got deleted after I pointed out the source was unverified, ha. cool.gif
QUOTE(thePotIntheGarden @ Mar 7 2007, 02:57 PM) *

Right, Ursa, so the explanation is blatant to the world once again: He doesn't like females, he never has, and never will...meanwhile, Ryan's been in his life since childhood... laugh.gif

hug.gif Awww. happy.gif I'd just like to add ... no, I don't want to add anything. The facts speak for themselves. biggrin.gif
mary_jane83
Th Mcdonald stuff? D'you mean the fact that Patrick and Craig met in a Mcdonald?Oh weird! ohmy.gif


People are creepy. They're so lame that they fill obliged to feel this piece of shit with their names. Because they think they'll go out with Craig Nicholls someday. That's so hopeless. I'm sad for those people. I really am. And i also am sad for Craig, poor guy really. he's so great and too nice. He wouldn't kill a mosquito! Pff and all those creepy whores outside just wanting one thing from him. I'm truly sad. I've always claimed everywhere i liked him. I fucking do laugh.gif but it's not like i'm gonna do things like that or pretend i'll go out with him or stuff. We all do the same here. We're not nasty, i know this. We all have dreams and it's great. Some love Craig, some loves Brad, Hamish or Ryan. And we all once said we'd die to kiss one of them. But we all know it's about dreams! The girl who filled this wikipedia article is crap. Poor her!
I'm sorry to say all this. But i really feel bad for Craig. I love him so, it's sad that his privacy and his lovestories as raped/viewable like that by shits ! I don't really know if someone gets what i want to say ... well i understand myself laugh.gif
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 7 2007, 05:21 PM) *

Because they think they'll go out with Craig Nicholls someday. That's so hopeless.

...But it isn't wrong to think that about Ryan, is it? whistle.gif
mary_jane83
Haha, you're too cute Ursa hug.gif I love you.
Well we're actually talking about facts so tongue.gif It's you who says they REALLY are together. So it's not about thoughts but actually about facts tongue.gif So what i said doesn't count in this situation.
After, it's exactly what i said. I know you're really into the ghey stuff and no one blame you. At all. Some aren't and i understand this. But it's not nasty. It's only about dreams (i know what you're gonna say Ursa, just don't!) tongue.gif They know each other since a very long time. They're best friends. It's not the same in this case. In the case of this Irene Ross, it's a girl who claims being Craig's girlfriend but Craig doesn't even know her. Well we don't really know and we can't know but wikipedia isn't sure so i doubt on it! I don't know, i think i'm confused and a bit cranky about this laugh.gif
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 7 2007, 05:34 PM) *

Haha, you're too cute Ursa hug.gif I love you.

Awww... happy.gif Ursa luvs Cécile, too. hug.gif
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 7 2007, 05:34 PM) *

(i know what you're gonna say Ursa, just don't!) tongue.gif

*tries VERY hard to keep her mouth shut* pinch.gif
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 7 2007, 05:34 PM) *

They're best friends.

*bites tongue* I can't take this much longer! I'll just get out of this thread for awhile, it's too tempting. tongue.gif
mary_jane83
Awwww hug.gif

No, well ... I love my Ursa. I'll be nice with you, laugh.gif i don't want you to feel frustrated. Let's say ... huum ... by dreams i meant they never say officially 'we're together'. So, you dream about this romance. tongue.gif
Hahaha ... Sorry.
Sexhair
By the Mcdonald's thing I mean that they took out where it says that he had stopped eating it...

It's so stupid that people can edit Wikipedia pages.
kitten
QUOTE(Jessica @ Mar 7 2007, 11:14 AM) *

By the Mcdonald's thing I mean that they took out where it says that he had stopped eating it...

It's so stupid that people can edit Wikipedia pages.



craig stopped eating mcdonalds?
Sexhair
I read that somewhere and I am pretty sure it was on there.
Beebop
I heard that too, trying to go healthy. for some people diet can effect thier behaviour i guess..well it effects me unsure.gif
mary_jane83
I don't think Craig has stopped eating Mcdonals. tongue.gif It's worse than every drugs laugh.gif quite impossible to stop. Plus, he lives in australia and australian CANT live without Mcdonalds as i've heard tongue.gif Well, i'm sure he's been trying to stop it though tongue.gif
Alice
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 7 2007, 07:32 PM) *

I don't think Craig has stopped eating Mcdonals. tongue.gif It's worse than every drugs laugh.gif quite impossible to stop. Plus, he lives in australia and australian CANT live without Mcdonalds as i've heard tongue.gif Well, i'm sure he's been trying to stop it though tongue.gif

isn't beer more appealing to australians than mcdonalds?
i don't think craig drinks. or maybe he does? i've never actually SEEN him drinking beer on camera.
if so, if he can live without beer then he can live without maccas. ;D

(oh man, i'm gonna be slaughtered by three angry australians and a vines fan for that.)
mary_jane83
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I don't know if beer is more the australian thing !
Well, Craig's known for not drink. There's that interview where the interviewer who's freaking annoying asked weird questions to Craig and then she's like - Oh because there were free booze - and Craig answered - Oh well i don't drink - He seemed so pissed off. Haha laugh.gif So yeah Craig doesn't drink but ... does he really mean doesn't drink ? He certainly drinks sometimes ... for big occasions laugh.gif
Alice
think in that interview his aspergers was acting up. but he doesn't really seem like the drinking type to me anyway.
..yeah, he's an odd one. haha.
funny interview, even though he was being a bit of a wanker. biggrin.gif
Brooklyn Girl
QUOTE(Jessica @ Mar 7 2007, 12:47 AM) *

I want to watch that video but I have yet to be accepted. It's been a month and I haven't gotten an email saying that I have been accepted. I emailed the person that runs the site. I wanna see.. tongue.gif

Something may be wrong with your email address (doesn't accept graphics, typed wrong, etc.)

Did you send me a PM (here or on the DTI forum)?
Beebop
QUOTE(Vinechild @ Mar 28 2006, 11:26 PM) *

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Hey does anyone have these without the stoopid watermark thingy on?

also this one bigger or less fuzzy?
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MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Mar 7 2007, 05:50 PM) *

Awwww hug.gif

No, well ... I love my Ursa. I'll be nice with you, laugh.gif i don't want you to feel frustrated. Let's say ... huum ... by dreams i meant they never say officially 'we're together'. So, you dream about this romance. tongue.gif
Hahaha ... Sorry.

Aww. happy.gif Don't worry, I don't feel frustrated. laugh.gif
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On the drinking question:
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Does this help? tongue.gif Anyway, Craig prefers coke to booze. Al said he was drinking (actually, taking small sips) when he was in the UK last year but he doesn't tolerate alcohol too well. Alison said he probably wouldn't be able to stand up if he had two beers. laugh.gif Too bad she isn't too frequent on the forum anymore or she could explain it herself. sad.gif I don't remember where we had this convo and I'm not in the mood to go search for it. rolleyes.gif

Anyway, pic time!
Two well-known ones that haven't been posted in a long time:
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Someone's butt in Craig's face:
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HoTT.
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The Vines with Robert! icon12.gif
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And Rrrryan!
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Alice
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craig's eyes look so.. shiny.
(i have an annoying attention to detail. :/)
mary_jane83
QUOTE(alice @ Mar 7 2007, 08:49 PM) *

think in that interview his aspergers was acting up. but he doesn't really seem like the drinking type to me anyway.
..yeah, he's an odd one. haha.
funny interview, even though he was being a bit of a wanker. biggrin.gif

A wanker? This is official you'll be tortured by me laugh.gif just kidding, hon hug.gif
Well he wasn't really nice with her but she was so dull laugh.gif
Alice
hahaha.
i hate edith bowman (the interviewer), she IS really dull. her accent bothers me.
Sexhair
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvUdsiSSJlM

Here is the interview. I can't help but lol everytime I see it. I used to watch it everyday. tongue.gif
Alice
QUOTE(Jessica @ Mar 7 2007, 08:35 PM) *

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvUdsiSSJlM

Here is the interview. I can't help but lol everytime I see it. I used to watch it everyday. tongue.gif

"i'm telling you the teeth, that means that tooth, and that means it's a bunch of shite.."

i love it, haha.
Brooklyn Girl
QUOTE(Jessica @ Mar 7 2007, 03:35 PM) *

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvUdsiSSJlM

Here is the interview. I can't help but lol everytime I see it. I used to watch it everyday. tongue.gif

I love Craig but damn he was being such a little brat! He's lucky she didn't pick his ass up and throw him off the roof. tongue.gif
evie dee
QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Mar 7 2007, 06:00 PM) *

I love Craig but damn he was being such a little brat! He's lucky she didn't pick his ass up and throw him off the roof. tongue.gif

That interview makes me laugh really hard every time I see it! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Feedums @ Mar 7 2007, 11:56 AM) *

Most likely some random fangirl edited the Wiki page and placed her name there. Nothing to worry about... except maybe their mental health.

That's what I thought when I saw the info from Wikipedia about Craig onthis forum. Some people have WAY too much time on their hands. And about Irene Ross, it sounds like she may be a stalker. ph34r.gif
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(Jessica @ Mar 7 2007, 09:35 PM) *

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvUdsiSSJlM

Here is the interview. I can't help but lol everytime I see it. I used to watch it everyday. tongue.gif

I love that interview! laugh.gif I watch it everytime I want to shout in anger. It calms me down and lifts my spirits. happy.gif Why? I have no clue. Maybe I just enjoy watching Edith get slagged off. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Mar 7 2007, 10:00 PM) *

I love Craig but damn he was being such a little brat! He's lucky she didn't pick his ass up and throw him off the roof. tongue.gif

Brat or no brat, how could anyone with a heart even consider hurting such a sweet-looking boy like Craig? wub.gif He makes words like fucking and shite sound like the most innocent words. laugh.gif

QUOTE(evie dee @ Mar 7 2007, 10:29 PM) *

And about Irene Ross, it sounds like she may be a stalker. ph34r.gif

My type of a person then. tongue.gif
evie dee
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Mar 7 2007, 06:46 PM) *


My type of a person then. tongue.gif

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Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Mar 7 2007, 01:46 PM) *

I love that interview! laugh.gif I watch it everytime I want to shout in anger. It calms me down and lifts my spirits. happy.gif Why? I have no clue. Maybe I just enjoy watching Edith get slagged off. tongue.gif
Brat or no brat, how could anyone with a heart even consider hurting such a sweet-looking boy like Craig? wub.gif He makes words like fucking and shite sound like the most innocent words. laugh.gif


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gigi
QUOTE(Jessica @ Mar 8 2007, 12:54 AM) *

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When I was a kid, my dad and my grandpa used to force to learn how to play golf. There was this one time when they kept me on the field 'til sundown. I fucking cried because I was tired and I wanted to go home. I fucking hated golf.
About a week ago, I was just thinking about how much of a non-productive fatass I am, and I started to consider playing golf again. Then I completely forgot about it again.. until now, though. Looking at this picture of Craig makes me want to take up golf more than ever!
evie dee
QUOTE(mariafromguam @ Mar 7 2007, 07:04 PM) *

When I was a kid, my dad and my grandpa used to force to learn how to play golf. There was this one time when they kept me on the field 'til sundown. I fucking cried because I was tired and I wanted to go home. I fucking hated golf.
About a week ago, I was just thinking about how much of a non-productive fatass I am, and I started to consider playing golf again. Then I completely forgot about it again.. until now, though. Looking at this picture of Craig makes me want to take up golf more than ever!

I odn't like golf. If they had a golf cart crash race, then maybe I'd play!
Beebop
QUOTE(mariafromguam @ Mar 7 2007, 10:04 PM) *

When I was a kid, my dad and my grandpa used to force to learn how to play golf. There was this one time when they kept me on the field 'til sundown. I fucking cried because I was tired and I wanted to go home. I fucking hated golf.
About a week ago, I was just thinking about how much of a non-productive fatass I am, and I started to consider playing golf again. Then I completely forgot about it again.. until now, though. Looking at this picture of Craig makes me want to take up golf more than ever!


He looks so adorable there, and his trainers are cute rolleyes.gif and jumper...nice jeans too. never played golf...don't intend to either..looks a frustrating sport huh.gif

QUOTE(evie dee @ Mar 7 2007, 10:06 PM) *

I odn't like golf. If they had a golf cart crash race, then maybe I'd play!

Ha ha true laugh.gif
gigi
QUOTE(Erin @ Mar 8 2007, 08:29 AM) *

He looks so adorable there, and his trainers are cute rolleyes.gif and jumper...nice jeans too. never played golf...don't intend to either..looks a frustrating sport huh.gif

It really is frustrating. But also very rewarding once you get good at it..which I'm not.
I think I should take up hockey instead. It's a good way to take out all your frustrations. When I played in middle school, I got smacked in the lip with the hockey stick. It fucking hurt like hell, I couldn't help but tear a bit. I would've cried, but I didn't want to in front of all my classmates. pinch.gif
Beebop
QUOTE(mariafromguam @ Mar 7 2007, 10:37 PM) *

It really is frustrating. But also very rewarding once you get good at it..which I'm not.
I think I should take up hockey instead. It's a good way to take out all your frustrations. When I played in middle school, I got smacked in the lip with the hockey stick. It fucking hurt like hell, I couldn't help but tear a bit. I would've cried, but I didn't want to in front of all my classmates. pinch.gif


aw, yea hockey can be pretty violent, i remeber everyone would wack you in the ankles and shins, or smack at the ball so high,almost knocking you out!
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