would u still like the vines if the albums sounded like they sounded live....sometimes i dont like the live vocals sumtimes i do...but overal, i think i would still like them...

take into consideration that we'd never no the difference between the way the album sounds now and the way they sound live

yup, i would still like them

of coarse i would, it really doesn't matter if it is live or not.

well I wouldn't like the albums as much no

It depends. I saw the performance where Craig like, smacked himself in the face with the mic and started bleeding and he just couldn't continue singing(well, he tried!) and just totally ruined the song.

But, I wouldn't mind, no. I'd still like them. But if ALL their songs where like the one I mentioned, probably not. I actually like some of their performances better than the song on the albums, sooo. It depends.

What performance where Craig started bleeding cos he hit himself in the face? I don't beleive I have seen it.

Umm. I'll have to find it. I read the article about it too. At first, when I saw the video it didn't look like he was bleeding, but then I read the article about it and it said he was. But pfft. Sometimes reporters are wrongwrongwrong.

But i think he really did hit himself in the face with the mic because it sounded like it hurt really, really bad...

what? i think a really good band should be even better live than on cd. i have never been to a concert, so i can't say if i like them live or not. but i think it really really matters. otherwise it's just another fuckin band whose members don't have to be able to sing but be goodlooking. like in a real band the members have to write their songs by themselves or should be able to play an instrument. well, at least that's my way of interpreting the word "band".

I don't know.

From what I've seen of them, most of the live performances aren't too good. Craig totally destroys the songs most of the time.

I think that the words they sing and how they make you feel and how they make you think are allot more important then the voice, so definitly

a "singer" should be able to "sing", right? if you listen to songs of britney spears or whoever then you recognize that some of the lyrics aren't too bad. but that's not what makes you finally listen to her, is it?

Yes

ok, i not saying that i like the vines just because they're goodlooking. what i was saying that it doesn't matter because i think that it doesn't matter for how they chose to sing their songs.

hella yeah! when i saw them live, they were amazing.

Yes. I have some mp3's of demos that I especially love because you can hear the flaws. I like the rawness.

yeah i would still like them....but sometimes the live shows make me laugh for some reason...

howd u get demos?

I downloaded them from somewhere this past year....hmmm.

i watched them do the live perfoemance on XFM thing i loved it. autumn shade live made me laugh though

ive never seen them live actully there wich kinda sucks because it looks like i never will

well i like music that maks me think, but that doesnt mean that I listen to william hung or anything

of course not. craig sounds like a dying seagull and their performances are very half-assed. it's no surprise when the lead singer has tryed to get out of playing live and has expressed his hatred for it on fans and a photographer.

omg, I think they fucking rock wherever they play, Craig could perform by singing in his sleep and it would still be beautiful

humm hell yes thats even better live......cool but still id want to hear the reocrded studio one.....

of course, then you could hear stoned and pressured craig and stoned and relaxed craig

cheers!

yes yes true haha lol.

yeah, I'd like em still but I wouln't want their alblums. The clapping always bothers me.......

HAHA. Wow. That made me laugh. I'm always surprised when he expresses his hatred for anything...

Also, I have to agree to the person who said that their live perfomances make them laugh. I can't help but laugh. I wonder if he purposely does what he does. He seems like a person who doesn't take life seriously because it wouldn't be fun for him, so why take music seriously as well? It's fun. They're fun. Even when he gets mad....

I'd still love'em. Just like what Craig said, "It's all about the music maaaaan..." Hehe, okay, he didn't say that but that's usually his mesage.



Did he smack himself on purpose?

I've never seen them live but judging by what I hear about them I sense I'd like them.. I usually like weird perfomances!!

i would not like them. Live Craig sounds awful. I feel bad for liking the music of a completely robotisized voice.

i don't know how to spell that.

LIVE music is the hot shit. if you got a good system all you do is close your eyes and it feels like you're there.

:::closing eyes::::

Are...you deaf???

Most of the live material that I have heard from them isn't that good. I like their studio albums better. I have some live performances on my computer that I regret downloading.

Sometimes it's better to hear Craig's bad performance than to not hear it at all.

I have not seen that many shows from The Vines, but what I have seen and heard, Craig scream alot, in a whole different way that he does on the studio recordings..
I think it's quite cool, but I don't really understand why? He has a very good voice, which he can use, instead of screaming like a girl all the time..

I still think that The Vines are entertaining, but they could be much better live..

Very well said
It's like those times when someone tells a guy/girl that he/she is good-looking but he/she wastes those good-looks by looking messed up. hehe

Hehe, yeah
As I said I just seen them in Sweden one time, and a couple of clips from shows on Letterman and so..
Is Craig acting like this all the time? Or just on some TV-shows?

My mom says that to me all the time

My whole family says that to me all the time

Poor, lonely, child I am...

I say that to my mom all the time

Which one? the whole messed up pretty thing or the poor lonely child thing?? wow, im so slow

Hehe

Yes i would still like them, live music sounds more realistic, by the way i like their live performances.

May it happen? I dont think so.
But if so, I think Id not like the album.

Although I have never seen/been to a life performance, i too have downloaded some of the audio from live performances, and in some of them craig sounds pretty good, but in others, such as the XFM F.T.W. performance (probably more but thats all I can think of at the moment) when he yells words out or screams, he sounds quite comical, for some reason, like a chicken is what comes to mind (maybe i'm just strange).

Well moving on.. I like there being a difference between the live and studio, and I don't expect live vocals to be the same as in the studio album. And there is a difference with seeing a band 'perform' live, because with live you also get the visuals of the band actually doinf their stuff (hopefully i will see them live sometime then i can make a better judgment...2006?? *hopes*)

And I would like the albums if they sounded like they sounded live on their good days, however Raw within reason is good, just as long as he shows that he has at least some good vocal skills. (don't scream like a chicken)

hey hey

considering the fact that winning days is crap compared to the demos ive heard, id rather them to be live. i hate polished up music its so.. non-.. real.

hey whos that guy in your sig???

GIGGLES

i gess i would still love them, cause they know music so well they wouldn't do anything that wasn't great. i have read some realy good reviews and some bad, so it would realy just depend.
i realy wont to see they live cause it how they connect with the music and just the hole expirence.