With the upcoming election, everyone is talking about who will be the next president-
Barack Obama
or
John McCain?

I say Barack Obama-I think that he will really trun the economy around, help to lower gas prices by introducing more altervative fuels, find ways to reduce energy costs-hopefully by encouraging the nation to go a little more greener-and maybe do something about Iraq! And help America to pull out of the retard phase it's going through right now.

^ I totally agree with you it has to be Barack Obama

Obama's a joke. Lower gas prices??? How? By not allowing drilling, by not giving tax incentives to business, or by increasing spending?

The only thing this man can do correctly is brainwash his followers, and accuse his opponents of racism. One man did this in the past, but that didn't turn out well, especially for Germany, the Jewish community, and everyone else involved in WWII. Although Obama isn't even as good. His book is only a dimestore mein kampf and he is a dimestore Hitler!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBkKwMVD7RA

^^ You lose due to Godwin. And only three posts into the thread, that must be a record of some kind.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. No way around it. Also not all Nazi references are voided by godwin. this made perfect logical sense since they're both politicians who blame the problems of the country on others, have tons of charisma, and use that charisma to captivate an audience with otherwise meaningless phrases.

I'm more experimental more than anything...

We've seen what an old white guy can do in office, over and over and over again.

Fuck the sound bytes, catch phrases and campaigns, let's see what a black guy can do in office....

No, because your reference is devoid of any sense as it is. Comparing someone you don't like to Hilter is just a lazy way to stir shit.



Oh, wow, you've just described your typical politician.

the typical politician doesn't become president. Should we not hold these two men to higher standards? While John McCain has the personality of a wet box, hes at least trying to establish a platform where all Barack Hussein Obama is doing is blaming bush. The bad news is that Bush isn't running against Obama, McCain is. All Obama is doing is using buzzwords and saying he'll fix the problems of America yet refuses to let anyone hear how. He's the most liberal senator in congress and never votes against tax cuts. He cant stand behind his record this campaign otherwise he'd lose by a landslide. So instead hes running as the "cool kid" using his age and race to increase his rockstar status. We don't need a cool kid as president, we need a man of experience, who will help the economy, protect the nation, and stop the congress from pushing through whatever it wants without the checks and balance our founders put into place.

Also if you've ever read mein kampf youd see what i was talking about. "Dreams From My Father" is oddly very similar. The disgust of Caucasian Americans isnt contained from more than 3 pages. It should have been called" why i hate whites" and been cut to 10 pages. It would have samed me hours.

So, Obama being a liberal, a person of colour and a 'cool kid' makes you pull out the Nazi card?

There are no words.

Im not a big fan of Barack Obama. But he's obviously better than the other moron.

I just cant go out and support anyone who's not daring to change something about the death penality when he could.

no, his distrust of different races, his entire platform being blaming the elected official before him in combination with the "cool kid" approach is what made me make the comparison.
All three were used successfully by Hitler and are being used by Obama now.

All Obama's proponents accuse racism on any critique of the man but they treat McCain as a walking punchline. Using the media to protect against your weaknesses and attack your enemies without you having to stand behind it is another nazi tactic.

Lastly, im intrigued by you spelling of color. It seems European in a way, Where are you from if you don't mind me asking?


Also i do think Barack Hussein Obama will win in November, and for this i weep for my country. My only hope is that its like the carter years and awakes the true conservatives and helps put these neo-cons in their place.

Colour is the normal proper way to spell it. It's British and used in Austalia as well.
Everyone in Europe, as far as I know, is taught British English in school. At least in the beginning.


Look, the Nazis didn't invent fooling people and using rhetoric to trick people into believing and following them. Yes, obviously Hitler and Obama both do it, so? You shit and eat and breathe, too, and yet Im not saying you're a fascist gory belligerent insane murderer.

Just imagine what I'd have to say if you stated you liked sheep dogs.

You could draw certain parallels between Hitler and McCain or Bush as well, and they wouldn't be any less valid than the ones you listed. Mostly because the ones you listed are quite ridiculous and, as I said before, could be attributed to virtually every politician there is. Come on, if you want to show us how bad Obama is a little effort would be nice. Saying that because he's charismatic and popular he's automatically OMG A NAZI!!1! is just lazy.


I'm located here.

Completely unrelated to the original topic because I stay well away from politics, but:



This particular comment made me decide not to take any of your posts seriously.

The British invented the English language. Never forget.

Neither of them are as liberal as I like my politicians. In Canada, our Conservative party is more liberal than Republicans.

Barack by default. I did like Hillary better though.

at least bush/McCain while theyre far too liberal for my taste, may use empty rhetoric they still attempt to have a platform which noone has disagreed to Obama not having which is the major reason for nazi comparison.

Also, i asked where you live to try understanding the political climate and more national feeling of politics.




... because i noticed that she was European my posts shouldnt be taken seriously??? I asked that to better understand what approach i should use on Obama. Saying hes really liberal means jack shit to a European since more Europeans are very liberal as already pointed out...

Moreover, english actually was formed by western germanic, anglo-saxon, and anglo-norman people, not simply the british.

...and the troll has been fed many good spam.

Sorry, evie.

Your major reason is simply not good enough.

Why do you keep repeating he's liberal as if it were a bad thing? It's a political orientation, not a disease.

Actually, I don't think her point was about 'who got there first'. British English is pretty much the standard for the English-speaking world, excluding the US. The spelling isn't 'European'. Also, what's with your selective capitalisation?

Me too....she was the best all around out of al of them,and she has probably the most experience.

Thanks, soyla!



I agree, Mo.


That's okay, Mo. The Hurricane seems to be missing an intelligence chip.

Courtesy of politicalcompass.com:





So really...no one is really like Hitler.

And P.S. The only reason to say "Hussein" as a part of Barack Obama's name in normal conversation is a bullshit Sean Hannity-esque scare tactic ~OOOOOH SCARY MUSLIM NAME!!

McCain confuses Shiites and Sunnis on a regular basis - and argues to the death that he's right when he's so wrong. He's also an enemy to Roe vs. Wade, which makes him a complete and utter douchebag in my book.



BARACK OBAMA FOR THE MOTHERFUCKING WIN.

Sort of related to this: I don't laugh at loud as much as your average person, but this made me do just that.

That's what you say now, and in my current drunken state I'm somewhat willing to believe it, but to be quite frank the whole European comment reeked of pseudo-superiority/discrimination. I'll let it slip for now, as I am kind people.



And you don't think I know this? As a matter of fact I do, for some bizarre reason I actually went through a phase where I was silly enough to attend school. I suppose I just wasn't pretentious enough to work that shit into my entire comment, in my naive and horribly vain hope that people would pick up on what I was on about, i.e.: referring to the fact that the first actual country to truly and entirely adapt the English language was in fact the quite appropriately named England, which I do believe is a part of Britain. However, there you have it. I've been - in a way - outsmarted by another internet person and this is clearly the end of my time as an impressive human being, not to mention the point where I probably have to move out of my mother's basement.

Sod it.

It makes me do a weird simultaneous laugh/cry...

Guess what, kids! Knowing basic fucking geography is not required to be president these days!

I only just saw this thread, so I feel it has to be said that Barack Obama wins.

McCain just has this look of "I wan't to make a war"

Also, as pointed out in an English comedy program,

He's an apparent war hero because he was shot down 5 times when he was a pilot.

That doesnt make him a hero, it makes him a terrible pilot.

Exactly!
Obama seems to be winning over McCain.

I've got nothing to do with this,
but I want Obama

Mr Obama would get my vote.

I'm not american so my vote means nothing but I've read Barak Obama's book & I actually think he has some great out looks. Whether or not he's capable of changing the world.. who knows, right? I personally just hope he isn't assassinated. I know it's not something to bring up but it's possible considering the 'change'. I think he would be a great president & do great things. Hopefully he does with the win if he gets it

LMAO god I love that picture I think it sums up both candidates well.

Lmao. Dammit, you bet me to posting the picture.

Does anyone know why he actually did taht by the way?

Looks like he saw his own campaign ad or something.

He was hacking on a hairball.

one word "OBAMA"

Agreed.

I just realized this hasn't been posted in this thread. BLASPHEMY.

^^ Those Shamwow spinoffs are everywhere.

An historical moment. Obama was elected president of U.S. already.
Democrats won so far.

i'm happy he won

It will be a radical change, after Bush Administration. Obama is more open-minded probably. Is good actually that Obama won.

I dont think McCain really ever had a chance (which is a good thing!)

As much as he distanced himself from Bush and all his mistakes, he could only go so far without alienating the hardcore Republican voters.

Also electing Palin as VP???? huuuuuggeee mistake, this is a woman who actually asked live on tv "What does the VP actually do?".

Still im verrrry glad Obama won, America is in dire need to change. Its nto going to happen over night, Obama has his work cut out for him. But thankfully he concentrates ont he real problems instead of starting illegal wars so in time he should fix things. hes also popular around the world which will do America's reputation heaps of good!

With Sarah Palin, Republicans had their part then.

McCain had a good chance, but there's nothing to do against the voice of the people.

I'm grateful for all the past administrations of my country, even though some presidents were more popular than others.

The world keep spinning round with each new day.

I'm not American but I'm glad Obama won. America definitely needs a change.

That change, may affect us all.

You guys, oh my holy shit. I'm so pissed my internet was cut off ALL WEEK. For the love of god.

But YEAH MOTHERFUCKERS

Dude, some measures his staff have been throwing around to tackle in his first months of presidency include lifting the global gag on providing proper gynecological care in foreign countries because they ~support abortion~, and lifting laws against stem cell research.


CHANGE IS COMIN, AMURIKA. DEAL WITH IT.

It's funny how engaged the rest of the world has been with this. Here in Sweden there was no way you could get away from it. It's been everywhere and even I who's not very interested in what happens in the world, have been somewhat engaged in this. Very glad that Obama won

I'm really glad that Bush's gone none and hoping that Obama winning will change things.

As for my view of the next POTUS, I'm starting to warm up to Barack Hussein Obama. He ran a good campaign that didn't involve much of any shit-slinging at all, nowhere near the degree that McCain did and nowhere near as low. He's young, he's a good looking politician (which is something I haven't seen in a while), I'm looking forward to his honesty that he claims to give, and I'm seriously looking forward to his first State of the Union Address.

It is unfortunate that we have people in the US that still judge others by the color of their skin, and also by the sound of their name, but the fact is that we still do. We are making progress, though, in making that adjustment, in treating others according to the content of their character and not by anything else. It's slow, but we gotta keep it going. As far as him getting shot goes (and I have heard that he might get assassinated during his term in office), I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility. I read or heard somewhere that the day of and after the election, gun sales had spiked up dramatically, so either it's a gun holiday, people wanna stock up on the guns that the big and scary government are supposedly gonna take away, or we have some people who wanna shoot something (or someone).

As for all the crap they said about religion, Obama went to Church for 20 years, which proves he's a Muslim. ..and McCain never was religious at all, which proves that he's a Christian.

I disliked John McCain, and it's not just based on his campaign of a few months (as much as I have to say on that), it goes even farther back than that. Ever since the Republican primaries (when there were other candidates like Ron Paul, Fred Thompson, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, and the rest of the gang), as soon as I heard that George W. Bush supported John McCain specifically (which was about 10 or 11 months ago), I knew that McCain was going to be the nomination right there, boom. It was all just a matter of time. However, I wasn't expecting McCain to "distance" himself from Bush, that came as a surprise to me. That was also a turning point, too, because before that, I actually agreed on some of what McCain said, and I actually thought at the time that he might have a good campaign going. But as time went on after that, I saw him starting to change for the worse, and it only got even worse from there, and then it devolved into something that just guaranteed a loss for him.

There were a lot of things that contributed to his loss, but the final nail in the coffin for McCain, to me, was the choice of Sarah Palin for his VP pick. I'm not sure if the choice was made to try and attract Hillary Clinton's female supporters, but I knew it wasn't going to work. Aside from that, I didn't like her for several reasons, and the level of forgiveness that her supporters were (and still are!!!) giving her was/is just ridiculous. I mean, seriously, her two total interviews that she *DID* grant were total disasters (I don't count the interview she did with Sean Hannity on Fox News because she wasn't even given questions that were about her, all they talked about during that was Obama). I have never seen someone look like they were sticking to the script more than she did. Even in the debates, she flat-out refused to answer the questions given to her, which I found frustrating because I wanted to know where she stood and she didn't give it, and she tried to spin it as if she was being a "maverick" in doing that. And I haven't even gotten to her politics, my god.

Here's my politics part:
For someone who rallies a lot of Christians, her stance on abortion made my jaw drop (denying *EVERYONE* abortions, not even exceptions to those who are victims of rape and incest), which is kinda funny considering that her unwed teenage daughter is pregnant (they "fixed" that immediately with a shotgun wedding, and I feel bad for Levi Johnston in that respect). On top of that, if you're still not convinced, she was downright mean on the campaign trail. She said that Obama "pals around with terrorists," and she (along with her party) divided parts the country by saying that only certain parts of the US is the "real America," and she (especially at the RNC) shat on community organizing a good deal. I used to work with a community organizer, and that really offended me. Also, it came out *AFTER* the election that she knows less than I thought...check out the video below to see.

Link ---> Sarah Palin knew even less, and they kept it quiet.

My dislike for Sarah Palin is far beyond what it is for McCain. I don't think I've ever disliked anyone in politics more than I do her....and now that it's over, I'm hearing that John McCain's claiming that he didn't even choose her, that he wanted Joe Lieberman. So much for being a "maverick" that makes your own decisions.

There were just so many things that went wrong for the Rep. party this time around, it's unfortunate.

Well, now that we have Obama as President-Elect, let's just wait and see what will happen.

I just saw this last night, and there's a few parts that I really agree with...starting at 2:40
Bill Maher: New Rules
Okay, it's highly opinionated, but the part I agree with is between 4:50-5:19

I'm sorry to skip everything else, but:

Why does everyone call Obama "Barack HUSSEIN Obama" and no one ever calls McCain "John SYDNEY McCain"? I'm not being snarky, this is a genuine question.

I say it as a way to pinch myself. We actually elected president a black guy with a Muslim-sounding name.

...and not a moment too soon after 9/11.

I'm Benja (Benijana, Benn). Hi Mo.
Extense post. Well, if I lived in the US, I'd voted for Barack Obama.
Now at least the photos of the POTUS, which appears everyday and everywhere, will, in some way, be better.


I think we all have differences, but very tiny differences compared to the big similarities.
Hence, why look at skin color?


Democracy really works then in US, or politics are improving, because Obama is African-American, and the Woman obtained an incredible "second place": Vice President of the United Sates.


I'll pay more attention to the "moves" of Obama and his cabinet.