MisplacedKeys
Aug 2 2008, 09:24 AM
The Vines announce release date for new album
'Melodia' will be available in October
Aug 1, 2008
As NME.COM previously reported, the follow-up to 2006's 'Vision Valley' is currently being streamed in its entirety on Myspace.com/thevines.
The tracklisting for 'Melodia' is as follows:
'Get Out'
'Manger'
'A.S III'
'He's A Rocker'
'Orange Amber'
'Jamola'
'True As The Night'
'Braindead'
'Kara Jayne'
'Merrygoround'
'Hey'
'A Girl I Know'
'Scream'
'She Is Gone'
US fans are able to purchase a download copy of the album from iTunes now.[
source]
I'm sorry, WHAT?
October?
Huh? Is NME using a different calendar than I am? Is July October in the UK?
People have been able to get their copy from HMV for about a month.
I'm confused.
VisionValley
Aug 2 2008, 09:31 AM
erhmm don't they mean in the rest of the world then? it has only been releasd in australia or am I wrong as usual
MisplacedKeys
Aug 2 2008, 09:36 AM
QUOTE(VisionValley @ Aug 2 2008, 11:31 AM)

erhmm don't they mean in the rest of the world then? it has only been releasd in australia or am I wrong as usual

Nope, it's was released in the US on July 22, in Oz on July 12 and I thought it was released in the UK on July 14, but I guess that's not the case?

Is the HMV deal all imports or what? It makes no sense to have it released in October anyway, they'll be touring Australia in October/November so it'll probably get shit-all promotion in the UK.
VisionValley
Aug 2 2008, 09:40 AM
oh okay then don't listen to me then.....I'm sorry if I was wrong....
maybe you shouldn't trust nme all the time....
SlashNX
Aug 2 2008, 10:40 AM
I thought HMV's copies were imports.
I hope it is true if theyre "re-releasing" melodia in the UK in October... because that will mean a single and some bloody advertising in the UK! Also hints at a possible UK tour!
Hopefully if they release a single just before Oct it will be MerryGoround the 2nd single for auz.
tyler
Aug 2 2008, 11:01 AM
QUOTE(SlashNX @ Aug 2 2008, 11:40 AM)

I thought HMV's copies were imports.
I hope it is true if theyre "re-releasing" melodia in the UK in October... because that will mean a single and some bloody advertising in the UK! Also hints at a possible UK tour!
Hopefully if they release a single just before Oct it will be MerryGoround the 2nd single for auz.
I don't have my copy to hand, but the record label will tell you what you need to know- if it says ivy league it's an aussie import, if it says heavenly then it's from the UK.
I suspect you'll find it's an aussie import- hence it only being available through HMV. But when it's released in October it'll be on heavenly and available everywhere. Also they'll have time to generate some hype here and maybe do some sort of a tour around the release.....
Untutored-Youth
Aug 2 2008, 04:00 PM
I think HMV's are imports because I havent heard about or seen the album anywhere.
I hope that come October, The Vines get some good promotion in England.
Although something has changed.. they played Get Free twice in two days on tv. Thats now three times I've seen it on tv in my entire life.

England needs more Vines!
wonkytooth
Aug 2 2008, 07:03 PM
i'm hoping what NME means is that the album will be available at all major outlets - not just thru HMV mail order. that's probably why there hasn't been much (if any) advertising in US and UK mags because it's not worth paying for print ads when availability is limited - it'd make more sense to put down more cash for promotion when it's easier for people to pick up at their local music store or thru itunes.
i checked US itunes, and Melodia is now available for $9.99. it wasn't on there when first released via the online stores, so hopefully getting added to itunes will help US sales.
btw, one of my favorite bloggers -
Goldenfiddle - has posted 'merrygoround' as a free download and did a shout-out for the vines saying...
Insound is the only online store in America where you can order the new Vines album, Melodia. Are we the only ones out there looking forward to this?
acob
Aug 2 2008, 09:23 PM
when out melodia in Spain?
ohwellwhatevernevermind
Aug 3 2008, 12:24 AM
Well I'm US and my friend told he seen it but it must be a import lol. all i know is i got mine in the mail from ISOUND
acob
Aug 3 2008, 06:59 AM
sorry if your answer is for me, I dont undestand it, but thanks
tyler
Aug 3 2008, 08:09 AM
QUOTE(acob @ Aug 2 2008, 10:23 PM)

when out melodia in Spain?
we don't know yet. Sorry, my friend.
SlashNX
Aug 3 2008, 12:09 PM
QUOTE(Untutored-Youth @ Aug 2 2008, 05:00 PM)

I think HMV's are imports because I havent heard about or seen the album anywhere.
I hope that come October, The Vines get some good promotion in England.
Although something has changed.. they played Get Free twice in two days on tv. Thats now three times I've seen it on tv in my entire life.

England needs more Vines!
I have to say i see The Vines now and again on MTV2 quite a bit, Outtatheway and Get Free.
The Vines songs though are always on MTV shows and TV adverts....
Its always either Get Free, Outtatheway, Fuck the world, Ride, Spaceship or Anysound.
highly vined
Aug 7 2008, 06:11 PM
nme proper slagged off the album!
MisplacedKeys
Aug 7 2008, 06:33 PM
^^ Can you scan the review? I can't find it online.
Maxwell Demon
Aug 7 2008, 09:50 PM
Yeah I haven't found it in any stores yet. So hopefully it will be available in Best Buy or the like in Oct.
Songbird
Aug 7 2008, 09:52 PM
QUOTE(highly vined @ Aug 7 2008, 08:11 PM)

nme proper slagged off the album!
nme should just shut the fuck up.
SlashNX
Aug 7 2008, 11:48 PM
doh, was hoping they would liken to it a bit more....
they obviously used the same guy who reviewed the best of.
Ill read it tomorrow.
ridexwithxme
Aug 8 2008, 05:59 AM
yeah can someone maybe scan in the NME review i know its in this week's, the one with noel? gallagher on the front. I odnt get in here in aus until two weeks later.....of course I never take anything that NME says seriously, im just interested in what they think. I think it's funny they manage to slag off the Vines and recomend people like Crystal Castles and the Ting Tings.
borgy
Aug 8 2008, 09:13 AM
nme will diss anything thats no longer fashionable. i guess the vines are 6 years out of fashion so they can't like them no more.
tyler
Aug 8 2008, 09:15 AM
they proper hated it- and apologised for everything they have written about them that was good.
Songbird
Aug 8 2008, 09:25 AM
haha, so pathetic. you may like it or not, but you honestly cant say that this album is bad, because it just isn't. even if you dont like them, you have to admit that. but hey, fuck nme.
MisplacedKeys
Aug 8 2008, 09:39 AM
QUOTE(tyler @ Aug 8 2008, 11:15 AM)

they proper hated it- and apologised for everything they have written about them that was good.

NME, can you go baa?
highly vined
Aug 8 2008, 05:57 PM
NME Reviews
The Vines
Melodia
Let’s get this out of the way, because it’s not something we’re too fond of doing. To those of you who bought the issue of NME dated July 23, 2002, please accept our sincerest and most unreserved apologies. Some of you may remember this issue as the one where we proclaimed a mentally imbalanced Antipodean as the de facto saviour of rock’n’roll and proceeded to indulge, over the course of innumerable pages and in a near-scientific discourse (right down to a diagram detailing how his watch – his watch – bestowed messianic power upon him) on why we were right. Well, we weren’t. The fault for the lonely winding down of The Vines’ curious career doesn’t lie solely at our feet – Craig Nicholls was always too trigger-happy with the self-destruct button to ensure that – but we certainly played our part. And for that we’re sorry. But nobody deserved ‘Melodia’.
The Vines’ fourth album, which they’re streaming free from their MySpace, contains only two songs that last longer than 150 seconds, yet listening to it feels like a lifetime of Chinese water torture. It opens with ‘Get Out’, a song Craig Nicholls has already written on at least three occasions, and each time – since ‘Get Free’s patent was approved – with diminishing levels of success. From here, things simply get worse; ‘Autumn Shade III’ mistakenly assumes the world was waiting for a denouement to a trilogy that was starting to sound dreary after the first few listens to part one, while, seven listens in, we’re still at a loss to say anything, good or bad, about the vapid ‘Braindead’.
For an album called ‘Melodia’ written by a self-confessed Beatles fanatic who once penned the gorgeous ‘Homesick’ and ‘Winning Days’, actual melodies are rare and most, like ‘Hey’ or the turgid ‘She Is Gone’, sound embryonic at best. There are seeds of good ideas to be found in ‘He’s A Rocker’’s Kinksian grunge motif and ‘Orange Amber’’s rough-edged approximation of REM, but ‘A Girl I Knew’ is the album’s only real highlight, with Nicholls opening up and talking in something other than vague metaphors about “Living off of coke and brew” over a ghostly acoustic march. If this you think this sounds like us burying the hatchet into The Vines’ spinal cord, you’re wrong. They were never the saviours of rock’n’roll we said they’d be, but we had hoped for a return – however slight – to ‘Highly Evolved’ form. We hoped in vain.
Barry Nicolson
4 out of 10
!VineTwist!
Aug 8 2008, 07:15 PM
Wow if this is true about Melodia to be released in UK & Ireland in October Jesus am I glad now that I ordered it from Insound and have it. When I was actually complaining it was taking so long. I thought it was supposed to be released on the 16th, well that wasnt the case in Ireland they only got the 'Best Of' in not so long ago. How bloody long would I have been waiting for, what a joke! Thank god for Insound! If it wasnt for the internet I would'nt even no of a new Vines album an especially not He's A Rocker, sucks all this bad advertising actually the lack of, if any advertising!...
MisplacedKeys
Aug 8 2008, 07:32 PM
QUOTE(highly vined @ Aug 8 2008, 07:57 PM)

Barry Nicolson
Oh, wow,
someone's a bit tipped off because their last names sound sort of alike.
Thank you so much for typing it up, by the way!
Sexhair
Aug 8 2008, 07:32 PM
QUOTE(highly vined @ Aug 8 2008, 12:57 PM)

NME Reviews
The Vines
Melodia
Let’s get this out of the way, because it’s not something we’re too fond of doing. To those of you who bought the issue of NME dated July 23, 2002, please accept our sincerest and most unreserved apologies. Some of you may remember this issue as the one where we proclaimed a mentally imbalanced Antipodean as the de facto saviour of rock’n’roll and proceeded to indulge, over the course of innumerable pages and in a near-scientific discourse (right down to a diagram detailing how his watch – his watch – bestowed messianic power upon him) on why we were right. Well, we weren’t. The fault for the lonely winding down of The Vines’ curious career doesn’t lie solely at our feet – Craig Nicholls was always too trigger-happy with the self-destruct button to ensure that – but we certainly played our part. And for that we’re sorry. But nobody deserved ‘Melodia’.
The Vines’ fourth album, which they’re streaming free from their MySpace, contains only two songs that last longer than 150 seconds, yet listening to it feels like a lifetime of Chinese water torture. It opens with ‘Get Out’, a song Craig Nicholls has already written on at least three occasions, and each time – since ‘Get Free’s patent was approved – with diminishing levels of success. From here, things simply get worse; ‘Autumn Shade III’ mistakenly assumes the world was waiting for a denouement to a trilogy that was starting to sound dreary after the first few listens to part one, while, seven listens in, we’re still at a loss to say anything, good or bad, about the vapid ‘Braindead’.
For an album called ‘Melodia’ written by a self-confessed Beatles fanatic who once penned the gorgeous ‘Homesick’ and ‘Winning Days’, actual melodies are rare and most, like ‘Hey’ or the turgid ‘She Is Gone’, sound embryonic at best. There are seeds of good ideas to be found in ‘He’s A Rocker’’s Kinksian grunge motif and ‘Orange Amber’’s rough-edged approximation of REM, but ‘A Girl I Knew’ is the album’s only real highlight, with Nicholls opening up and talking in something other than vague metaphors about “Living off of coke and brew” over a ghostly acoustic march. If this you think this sounds like us burying the hatchet into The Vines’ spinal cord, you’re wrong. They were never the saviours of rock’n’roll we said they’d be, but we had hoped for a return – however slight – to ‘Highly Evolved’ form. We hoped in vain.
Barry Nicolson
4 out of 10
Ouch.
But hey, oh well, right? As long as the fans like it! That's all that matters, yeah? Fuck what any magazine has to say. We all can agree that this album is brilliant.
Songbird
Aug 8 2008, 11:31 PM
^exactly. i mean, this is just an opinion. of..a nobody?! so whatever, the album is fucking great
SlashNX
Aug 9 2008, 12:16 AM
Theres something definately gone awry at camp NME!
Theyve obviously got a new person in to do their reviews.
because up untill the best of, they loved the vines!
They praised Vision Valley and Uk shows.
This person obviously never liked the Vines at all!!!
ridexwithxme
Aug 9 2008, 02:24 AM
fuck NME!!!!!
they are ridiculous. How can they apologise about what they said about them being good back then was wrong even though at the end of this review they still said, that Highly Evolved was a good album?
I really don't get them.
But hey, their opinion doesn't matter, the album speaks for itself and I think it's wonderful.

I still have the urge to write in to them bashing them for it, but.
MisplacedKeys
Aug 9 2008, 06:40 AM
QUOTE(SlashNX @ Aug 9 2008, 02:16 AM)

Theyve obviously got a new person in to do their reviews.
Nope, Barry
Manilow Nicholson is quite a regular, I hear. It's just that he slags
everyone off. Expect Sugababes. And oh, he said something nice about The Music a while ago, but he referred to the gig as the first one not to disappoint or something like that, so yeah. He's definitely a cock for no reason.
fuuuran
Aug 9 2008, 08:43 AM
Who actually reads reviews nowadays anyway.
But I don't get why they first apologise for saying they liked them back in 2002 and then saying that they thought HE was good. Eh?
Anyway, that's just his opinion, I love Melodia and the Vines and I don't care whatever any reviewer in the world says.
!VineTwist!
Aug 9 2008, 01:06 PM
Sorry just read the review now. My other post I was replying pretty much to the start of the thread.
Anyway reading that review makes me fucking angry. Even though I never listen to reviews, their usually bullshit (this one included). I hate the fact that they obviously got someone who hates The Vines to write the review and butcher them. This annoys me because lot's of people tend to believe reviews.. I know everyone is alowed say their opinion but this guy is just talking shit.
Laurenilla
Aug 9 2008, 06:44 PM
I'm sorry to say this, and i don't want you all to hate me because of an opinion i have, but that review is the first time in a long time where i've actually agreed with something that nme has written.
srsly, don't hate me for this.
MisplacedKeys
Aug 9 2008, 06:47 PM
Oh yes, likening a band to Chinese water torture is a dead-on comparison.
Laurenilla
Aug 9 2008, 07:02 PM
no need for sarcasm.
i can't say i like it if i don't.
i think nme made some valid points.
i like a grand total of 3 songs on the album. apart from that, i may as well say i've heard it all in the last 3 albums.
MisplacedKeys
Aug 9 2008, 07:27 PM
QUOTE(Laurenilla @ Aug 9 2008, 09:02 PM)

i think nme made some valid points.
Like what? No, really, I'm interested to know, because aside from admitting the amount of hype around them had nothing to do with The Vines themselves, it comes across as a big grudgefest to me.
Songbird
Aug 9 2008, 07:59 PM
QUOTE(Laurenilla @ Aug 9 2008, 08:44 PM)

I'm sorry to say this, and i don't want you all to hate me because of an opinion i have, but that review is the first time in a long time where i've actually agreed with something that nme has written.
erm...
haha.
Laurenilla
Aug 9 2008, 08:10 PM
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Aug 9 2008, 08:27 PM)

Like what? No, really, I'm interested to know, because aside from admitting the amount of hype around them had nothing to do with The Vines themselves, it comes across as a big grudgefest to me.
QUOTE(highly vined @ Aug 8 2008, 06:57 PM)

NME Reviews
The Vines
Melodia
Let’s get this out of the way, because it’s not something we’re too fond of doing. To those of you who bought the issue of NME dated July 23, 2002, please accept our sincerest and most unreserved apologies. Some of you may remember this issue as the one where we proclaimed a mentally imbalanced Antipodean as the de facto saviour of rock’n’roll and proceeded to indulge, over the course of innumerable pages and in a near-scientific discourse (right down to a diagram detailing how his watch – his watch – bestowed messianic power upon him) on why we were right. Well, we weren’t. The fault for the lonely winding down of The Vines’ curious career doesn’t lie solely at our feet – Craig Nicholls was always too trigger-happy with the self-destruct button to ensure that – but we certainly played our part. And for that we’re sorry. But nobody deserved ‘Melodia’.
The Vines’ fourth album, which they’re streaming free from their MySpace, contains only two songs that last longer than 150 seconds, yet listening to it feels like a lifetime of Chinese water torture. It opens with ‘Get Out’, a song Craig Nicholls has already written on at least three occasions, and each time – since ‘Get Free’s patent was approved – with diminishing levels of success. From here, things simply get worse; ‘Autumn Shade III’ mistakenly assumes the world was waiting for a denouement to a trilogy that was starting to sound dreary after the first few listens to part one, while, seven listens in, we’re still at a loss to say anything, good or bad, about the vapid ‘Braindead’.
For an album called ‘Melodia’ written by a self-confessed Beatles fanatic who once penned the gorgeous ‘Homesick’ and ‘Winning Days’, actual melodies are rare and most, like ‘Hey’ or the turgid ‘She Is Gone’, sound embryonic at best. There are seeds of good ideas to be found in ‘He’s A Rocker’’s Kinksian grunge motif and ‘Orange Amber’’s rough-edged approximation of REM, but ‘A Girl I Knew’ is the album’s only real highlight, with Nicholls opening up and talking in something other than vague metaphors about “Living off of coke and brew” over a ghostly acoustic march. If this you think this sounds like us burying the hatchet into The Vines’ spinal cord, you’re wrong. They were never the saviours of rock’n’roll we said they’d be, but we had hoped for a return – however slight – to ‘Highly Evolved’ form. We hoped in vain. Barry Nicolson
4 out of 10
i disagree with " To those of you who bought the issue of NME dated July 23, 2002, please accept our sincerest and most unreserved apologies. Some of you may remember this issue as the one where we proclaimed a mentally imbalanced Antipodean as the de facto saviour of rock’n’roll and proceeded to indulge, over the course of innumerable pages and in a near-scientific discourse (right down to a diagram detailing how his watch – his watch – bestowed messianic power upon him) on why we were right. Well, we weren’t. "
but the highlighted parts are the points im referring to. and they're not ALL bad.
believe me, i wanted to like it, and deep down i know if i forced myself, it might catch on but i don't want to force myself.
i want to hear a new song and think "ooo thats different".
the only songs i like are he's a rocker, kara-jayne and orange amber.
i think Hey is diabolical tbh. I could have written it.
allie9609
Aug 10 2008, 04:03 AM
The NME review is the only review that has been negative about Melodia so far. Over all Melodia has been given the thumbs up by other music magazines and newspapers, and when I consider the credibility of NME versus the other music mags that have reviewed the album... the NME review doesn't really bother me.
kekeke
Aug 10 2008, 04:41 AM
laurenilla is 100% right...craig had a chance to create a ripper album if he put 3 years into it except he didnt...instead he prefers mediocrity... i mean" hey, whayt are you doing today...WTF...terrible babyish SHITE...boggles the mind...cant he tell hes repeating the same stuff he used to do instead its 10 times worse...she is gone is the only acceptable song on the album the rest are cringeworthy ...hes a rocker WTF
pete doherty and craig nicholls are equal in talent...except doherty knows how to play guitar. hes not restricted to power chords or abcdefg...LEARN TO PLAY GUITAR PROPERLY CRAIG...or stop being so fucking lazy, up to you man...
MisplacedKeys
Aug 10 2008, 06:37 AM
QUOTE(kekeke @ Aug 10 2008, 06:41 AM)

WTF
No, seriously, man. Who spat into your coffee this morning?
SlashNX
Aug 10 2008, 08:35 AM
I want to know what the other 3 Get Out songs craig has written in the past?!
Apart from Get Free... which bares the resemblence in using th word "Get" repeatedly... im a bit lost.
As for the review, they dont have to like the album.... but they can atleast give it a propper critical review. This wasnt criticly analyzed, it was just a bashing against a band the reviewer doesnt like.
mary_jane83
Aug 10 2008, 12:04 PM
i just read the NME article & all i can say is ...
WOW.
this was a bit too harsh, seriously. i might agree on some points with them but they really went too far. NME really sucks these times, they're truly not as great as before.
still, as i said i agree on some little things they wrote like the thing about Get Out which sounds so familliar to Get Free & Outtathaway. Or what they said about their return. in my opinion this is far far away from the best album they've ever made & we waited SO long for this that it dissapointed me a bit, it didn't seem to me like the revival of The Vines but just like another random album.
Laurenilla
Aug 10 2008, 05:16 PM
QUOTE(Mary_Jane83 @ Aug 10 2008, 01:04 PM)

i just read the NME article & all i can say is ...
WOW.
this was a bit too harsh, seriously. i might agree on some points with them but they really went too far. NME really sucks these times, they're truly not as great as before.
still, as i said i agree on some little things they wrote like the thing about Get Out which sounds so familliar to Get Free & Outtathaway. Or what they said about their return. in my opinion this is far far away from the best album they've ever made & we waited SO long for this that it dissapointed me a bit, it didn't seem to me like the revival of The Vines but just like another random album.
a voice of reason, finally!
SlashNX
Aug 10 2008, 05:29 PM
I admit I was dissapointed witht the album, far too commercial for my liking and there was nothing pushing the boundries for them creatively. but it does have its good songs on there... and certainly didnt deserve the bashing it got from the NME, because like I said before... the "review" was basically a load of name calling and taunting, without actually talking much about the album.
tyler
Aug 11 2008, 07:01 AM
I think what a lot of people seem to be forgetting is a bit of context to this review- the world simply isn't about poppy grungy rock at the moment. It's all about 80's revival, the ting tings and just generally bad music we're all going to regret in 10 years time. The music world is cyclical, my friends, and what the vines do just simply isn't cool enough for NME at the moment. NME and it's readers are fickle, it's only 15 year olds who take it seriously, everyone else knows it's a joke publication. As much as I want to write them a letter and tell them to review it properly, it simply isn't worth it.
marilyn_monroe
Aug 11 2008, 10:18 AM
QUOTE(allie9609 @ Aug 10 2008, 02:03 PM)

The NME review is the only review that has been negative about Melodia so far. Over all Melodia has been given the thumbs up by other music magazines and newspapers, and when I consider the credibility of NME versus the other music mags that have reviewed the album... the NME review doesn't really bother me.
agreed

. and really, that review was so ridiculously attacking who can take it seriously? I mean, it's laughable if you ask me!
kekeke
Aug 11 2008, 10:26 AM
Can someone tell me what is wrong with the article...seemed to sum it up succinctly to me...
MisplacedKeys
Aug 11 2008, 10:47 AM
QUOTE(kekeke @ Aug 11 2008, 12:26 PM)

Can someone tell me what is wrong with the article...seemed to sum it up succinctly to me...
It's a grudgy biased opinion that tries to be sold as some kind of a proper review by an 'expert' in the field. When a third or more of your review addresses past feuds/relations with the band, you can no longer call it an album review; it's a resentful spit in the band's general direction.
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