QUOTE(Alice @ Aug 14 2008, 03:05 AM)

Oh, wow.
Look, I hate to say it, but I didn't like the album either. I'm not going to make myself like it right now, because it probably will grow on me over time. It's just not that great. That is my opinion.
The NME reviewer had his opinion too, obviously he had some problem with the band, and I don't think he should have built the "official" review around it.
I love The Vines, I do, but this album was just a dissapointment to me. The songs are catchy, but at the same time they don't stick in my head the way their songs on HE and WD do. Their two newest albums have both dissapointed me (with an exception for a couple of songs on VV), and I'm sure they've dissapointed a few people.
Don't flame Laurenilla for expressing her opinions on the album. Sure, they were harsh at times and all the comparing was a bit unneccesary, but what's the point in flaming someone for it? Ursa, I'm not blaming you for anything, you love the band and sure, if someone insults them, you'll get annoyed. I was annoyed at the review as well. But still.
Oh, and the thing about talent = success.. I have to say I disagree. When "artists" are constantly promoted and reviewers are saying they're the greatest new artist in the world, people will go out and buy the album or single to see if it's good or not. Obviously these people haven't heard of a little thing called Limewire.
Britney Spears got successful on her first song because it was promoted. She was hyped up beyond belief, and she got sucessful on minimal singing talent and songwriters putting songs in front of her, her manager saying "sing it, it'll be huge". Now this might not have happened, but it happens with a lot of singers. Basically, success =/= talent.
thank you for the support
Regarding the talent/popularity/whatever = success part, i didn't mean that at all. I actually cant remember what i meant. I knew what i meant at the time. :\ ive had like... 3 sleeps since then, im still tired and i honestly can't even remember half of what i was writing.
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Aug 14 2008, 10:24 AM)

Yes! I love that there are so few 'irritating' words/letters that would interrupt the flow of the songs. That takes more skill than you'd imagine, really.
I'm sorry if that came across as attacking *her*, it really wasn't meant that way. I have no problem with Lauren whatsoever, she's quite nice and I certainly wasn't out to get her. It's just that, if you say naive stuff like she has, you can't exactly expect you'll get a round of applause for it. I don't mean her opinion, she can dislike the album as much as she wants, but failing to see where the NME review was biased, that MerryGoRound is not about an actual merry-go-round, and that there's more to success than quality (and vice versa) is just mind-boggling. I know it probably came across too harsh, but that 'success v. quality' thing is the one thing that infuriates me to no end.
d.w i know it wasn't a personal attack

and btw, i was aware that merrygoround isn't about a merrygoround, i just thought like... on the outside it seemed abit... idunno. i wont start it again, ive had a rough few days tbh.
and like i said above... can hardly remember half the stuff i was writing. >.<
and like i said... the album is growing on me, i just PERSONALLY prefer the last 3. I should probably try and move on, eh.
AND (LAWL) i have cancelled my nme subscripition, so i can't say im that fond of it either.
too many and like i saids.
safe y'all.