borgy
Jul 20 2008, 08:34 AM
Melodia has debuted at 12 in Australia. How's that for a comeback. (Highly Evolved #5 WD #7 VV #14)
the_likely_lad
Jul 20 2008, 08:54 AM
Yeah, not too bad, Top 10 would have been nice.
Hopefully Spendour helps it a bit.
pure_wonderment
Jul 20 2008, 09:28 AM
yay! I also think they'll get higher up after more shows and more media
allie9609
Jul 20 2008, 09:32 AM
That's brilliant

. #12 is really good, especially when you consider the amount of publicity its had!
clever_napkins
Jul 20 2008, 10:20 AM
That's awesome

Which chart is that?
The ARIA charts are saying it's #11, and is the highest debut.
borgy
Jul 20 2008, 11:27 AM
QUOTE(clever_napkins @ Jul 20 2008, 08:20 PM)

That's awesome

Which chart is that?
The ARIA charts are saying it's #11, and is the highest debut.
the album chart. its 11 on the physical album chart which is no longer the main chart cause they choose to include crappy downloads now.
clever_napkins
Jul 20 2008, 11:34 AM
Ah, ok. I only really look at the physical charts.
arbitrary world
Jul 20 2008, 09:56 PM
Aw, that's so freakin awesome
Sun Child
Jul 22 2008, 11:03 AM
Come oooooon number 1
pure_wonderment
Jul 22 2008, 11:58 AM
QUOTE(Sun Child @ Jul 22 2008, 09:03 PM)

Come oooooon number 1
the_likely_lad
Jul 24 2008, 10:13 AM
The album was the 4th most bought in Victoria last week.
Keep in mind the bands label mates Youth Group's new album only managed a chart placing of 90 something LOL.
borgy
Jul 24 2008, 11:34 AM
QUOTE(the_likely_lad @ Jul 24 2008, 08:13 PM)

The album was the 4th most bought in Victoria last week.
Keep in mind the bands label mates Youth Group's new album only managed a chart placing of 90 something LOL.
You get what you deserve sometimes.
Ouch LOLpatz. Bet he regrets jumping ship when times were tough.

according to wikipedia it made 66 though.
arbitrary world
Jul 24 2008, 08:38 PM
QUOTE(the_likely_lad @ Jul 24 2008, 06:13 AM)

The album was the 4th most bought in Victoria last week.
Keep in mind the bands label mates Youth Group's new album only managed a chart placing of 90 something LOL.
LOLZ
somebody is drinking his woes away as we speak...his name starts with a P and ends in atrick.
MisplacedKeys
Jul 24 2008, 08:45 PM
QUOTE(borgy @ Jul 24 2008, 01:34 PM)

Ouch LOLpatz. Bet he regrets jumping ship when times were tough.

Oh, I'm sure being in Youth Group offers him the chance to express his ~inner artist better than being in The Vines did. Plus, he's the good-looking one for a change.
arbitrary world
Jul 24 2008, 10:08 PM
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Jul 24 2008, 04:45 PM)

Plus, he's the good-looking one for a change.
borgy
Jul 24 2008, 11:50 PM
just to be fair lets all put it perspective...
Youth Groups last album Casino Twilight Dogs released in 2006 with the hit cover song "Forever Young" made it to #10 in AUS. The Night Is Ours their latest album released in 2008 with no cover song to propel their profile makes #66 in AUS LOL
did i mention lol.
littlemissjoey
Jul 25 2008, 12:45 AM
SlashNX
Jul 25 2008, 01:06 AM
QUOTE(borgy @ Jul 25 2008, 12:50 AM)

just to be fair lets all put it perspective...
Youth Groups last album Casino Twilight Dogs released in 2006 with the hit cover song "Forever Young" made it to #10 in AUS. The Night Is Ours their latest album released in 2008 with no cover song to propel their profile makes #66 in AUS LOL
did i mention lol.
top 100... yess!!! score! lol
borgy
Jul 25 2008, 01:39 AM
QUOTE(littlemissjoey @ Jul 25 2008, 12:45 AM)


x2 i'll have a laugh if i want to. i'm not a Pat hater he played bass on HE and WD. But i will laugh at his decision to join a lesser band.
QUOTE(SlashNX @ Jul 25 2008, 11:06 AM)

top 100... yess!!! score! lol
lol you better believe it. (what the hell one last lol can't hurt) lol.
Matthez
Jul 25 2008, 02:55 AM
YouthGroup do indeed suck. Boring Boring Boring.
They should be stoked with 66
mezziie
Jul 25 2008, 06:16 AM
QUOTE(arbitrary world @ Jul 25 2008, 06:38 AM)

LOLZ
somebody is drinking his woes away as we speak...his name starts with a P and ends in atrick.
LOL. as mean as that is... still... LOL.
Untutored-Youth
Jul 26 2008, 12:02 AM
I think the situation with Youth Group gives me the right to say:
Mega lolz.
But Im pleased for the Vines, because secretly I expected it to go terrible. I though the Vines were over. I love the new stuff, but it sounds so different that I thought only the hardcore fans would like it. Thank god Im wrong.
allie9609
Jul 26 2008, 12:50 AM
Is this a thread about Youth Group or The Vines?

I really don't understand how this thread has turned into a Patrick hate thread... isn't this supposed to be about Melodia? The number of album sales doesn't necessarily mean that one album is better than the other... keep in mind that the #1 album in Australia right now is 'Mamma Mia - The Movie Soundtrack'. By your logic Patrick is in a lesser band because Youth Group sold fewer albums than The Vines... therefore by your definition an album of Abba cover songs is better than Melodia

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marilyn_monroe
Jul 26 2008, 02:42 AM
Well said, Ali, well said
tymaster1969
Jul 26 2008, 03:07 AM
wow. vision valley debuted at 14. then thats not really a comeback if they where already up there. its only 2 up...?
borgy
Jul 26 2008, 06:26 AM
QUOTE(allie9609 @ Jul 26 2008, 10:50 AM)

Is this a thread about Youth Group or The Vines?

I really don't understand how this thread has turned into a Patrick hate thread... isn't this supposed to be about Melodia? The number of album sales doesn't necessarily mean that one album is better than the other... keep in mind that the #1 album in Australia right now is 'Mamma Mia - The Movie Soundtrack'. By your logic Patrick is in a lesser band because Youth Group sold fewer albums than The Vines... therefore by your definition an album of Abba cover songs is better than Melodia

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It's about neither it's about Melodia a compact disc long player by the band The Vines.

However conversation topics changed slightly, which does not matter 'cause there are no rules telling you what you can and cannot say in any specific thread.
Album sales don't reflect how good a band is, however when you leave the Vines because you basically think they are a sinking ship like Patrick did and then join Youth Group thinking it was a great decision you cannot help but laugh, Firstly i find it hilarious because Youth Group are one of most boring bands ive ever heard, when you pop a Youth Group CD in you get auto pilot music, it stays safe and it stays on the path. When you pop a Vines CD in its an explosion of different sounds and curves here and there like a winding road and the songs just sound a million times better in general because Craig is a gifted song writer no questions asked and lastly adding salt to the wound Youth Groups 2nd CD since they became well known in Australia tanks...hard. Its hilarious cause it is probably the stupidest decision he ever made. I don't feel bad about saying it either because from some interviews ive read he's dissed his former band. By my logic Patrick is in a lesser band cause they suck.

It's funny how people will get worked up about this being a "Patrick hate" thread but it's totally cool if fan girls bash Craigs love interest(s). Like i said before im not a Pat hater, just laughing at a horrible decision he made when he still could have made it through the shit like other guys in the Vines have. Now the Vines have album sales and an amazing album all at the same time and album sales = fanbase.
Maxwell Demon
Jul 26 2008, 07:17 AM
Well I definitely don't see the girlfriend bashing as "totally cool". And would you really find it odd that people may be a bit more weary of seeing a former (and founding) Vines member being bashed than the guys' girlfriends?
Yeah Patrick didn't want to be in The Vines anymore. Yeah he wanted to have more creative input. Yeah he has a made a few iffy comments. But none of us are him and know all that went on in his head during his decision to switch bands. How can anyone other than him judge if it was a "horrible" decision?
and #66 is not a shoddy spot on the charts... just not as good as #12 (woot)
and chart spots have a lot more contributing factors than fanbases
for one I didn't see a "Youth Group, The Night Is Ours out (whenever it came out)" ad pop up on my facebook several times a day
and the album cover... sucks
arbitrary world
Jul 26 2008, 10:47 AM
Aw, I don't hate Youth Group. I love "Shadowland", but that's about it.
I just like being spiteful for spite's sake, no Pat love or hate here
borgy
Jul 26 2008, 10:50 AM
QUOTE(Maxwell Demon @ Jul 26 2008, 05:17 PM)

Well I definitely don't see the girlfriend bashing as "totally cool". And would you really find it odd that people may be a bit more weary of seeing a former (and founding) Vines member being bashed than the guys' girlfriends?
Yeah Patrick didn't want to be in The Vines anymore. Yeah he wanted to have more creative input. Yeah he has a made a few iffy comments. But none of us are him and know all that went on in his head during his decision to switch bands. How can anyone other than him judge if it was a "horrible" decision?
and #66 is not a shoddy spot on the charts... just not as good as #12 (woot)
and chart spots have a lot more contributing factors than fanbases
for one I didn't see a "Youth Group, The Night Is Ours out (whenever it came out)" ad pop up on my facebook several times a day
and the album cover... sucks
Yeah cause like i said Pat made a few digs so it shouldn't be that much of a big deal. But these girls have no idea who Craigs love interests are apart from a name and photo and immediately you starting seeing people saying they don't like such and such without even having a taste of what they are like. Pat gave interviews. Pat played bass. Its a different nintendo game but still.
True its entirely up to him whether or not it was a bad decision, but from where im sitting it looks bad. I read somewhere that it only takes sales of a couple hundred to crack the top 50 in Australia now cause CD sales have died out that much, so i can only imagine what 66 is in terms of sales.
Online ads are now set up to a persons demographics so maybe they didn't pay for online advertising for people who live in America (IP address and OS) help figure out where you are from. Maybe the CD isn't out there yet. But here in Melb Aus, Youth Groups latest CD was given quiet a marketing push on the streets with posters and ads in free music magazines. I'm not even a fan and i knew when the album was coming out and what the cover looked like.
mezziie
Jul 26 2008, 11:41 AM
sorry!! i quoted the patrick thing purely because it was written in a funny way. i have nothing against patrick or youth group.
had to clarify that before people label me as a hater of sorts.
sorry again!! ><"
MisplacedKeys
Jul 26 2008, 03:08 PM
QUOTE(allie9609 @ Jul 26 2008, 02:50 AM)

By your logic Patrick is in a lesser band because Youth Group sold fewer albums than The Vines... therefore by your definition an album of Abba cover songs is better than Melodia

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Nah, I think it's the other way around. I think we can mostly agree that The Vines are better than Youth (*cough*Boring*cough*) Group, and we're happy that that somewhat reflects in the charts by a higher placement. As for Mamma Mia! ... The universe got it wrong again.
Feedums
Jul 26 2008, 03:34 PM
Mamma Mia! is fabulous, don't be hating.
Maxwell Demon
Jul 26 2008, 07:39 PM
yeah I'm totally digging the ABBA covers actually.
the_likely_lad
Jul 26 2008, 11:04 PM
YG are so incredibly bland and naff I'm not surprised.
arbitrary world
Jul 26 2008, 11:11 PM
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Jul 26 2008, 11:08 AM)

Nah, I think it's the other way around. I think we can mostly agree that The Vines are better than Youth (*cough*Boring*cough*) Group, and we're happy that that somewhat reflects in the charts by a higher placement. As for Mamma Mia! ... The universe got it wrong again.
Go see "Mamma Mia!" live and it might fux with your perceptions on things.
MY DAD liked the play. MY DAD, Mr. stoic-work-on-his-laptop-avoids-going-to-musicials-with-me-and-my-mom-typical-male figure LIKED MAMMA MIA. He HATES ABBA (along with my mom, who loved it but that's predictable because we love musicials).
allie9609
Jul 27 2008, 04:44 AM
Borgy I completely agree with you on the band girlfriend front - no-one has a right to verbally abuse them. Especially since there is no legitimate reason for doing so since no one here actually knows them or anything at all about the relationships they have with band members. And quite frankly it is none of our business. Just as I have expressed my opinion that no one here should be bashing Patrick for a personal decision he made, I have also expressed my opinion in the girlfriend threads that the constant criticism is completely ridiculous and wrong.
This whole theme of laughing at Patrick because Youth Group's album hasn't sold as well as The Vines and claiming that he must be miserable and feeling like an idiot because of that, just really annoys me. He joined Youth Group before 'Forever Young' - when they were virtually unknown, and in contrast to how he appeared in Vines concerts, he has actually looked happy when playing for Youth Group. Personally I wouldn't presume to know the guys mind and proclaim that he must suddenly be kicking himself and wishing that he had remained in The Vines based on one week of album sales.
Anyway having said all that, I love The Vines and am really happy that they debuted at #12

. Hopefully they did just as well last week... charts come out tomorrow

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And I meant no offence to those Abba fans out there

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Youthgroup
Jul 27 2008, 05:24 AM
fuck off all you assholes who are bashing Patrick. Youth Group are as good as The Vines. The thing is they aren't trying to do the same thing as The Vines so you can't compare them. The Vines are rock and Youth Group is indie. so Fuck off and leave them alone.
MisplacedKeys
Jul 27 2008, 06:21 AM
^^ Want some lube for your butthurt?
I also love how you said that we could not POSSIBLY compare the two because they were doing TOTALLY different things, yet told us that they were "as good" in the previous sentence, thus comparing the two. Logic, it's not your virtue.
borgy
Jul 27 2008, 09:36 AM
QUOTE(Youthgroup @ Jul 27 2008, 03:24 PM)

fuck off all you assholes who are bashing Patrick. Youth Group are as good as The Vines. The thing is they aren't trying to do the same thing as The Vines so you can't compare them. The Vines are rock and Youth Group is indie. so Fuck off and leave them alone.
Your first class ticket to shadowland.

In other news Melodia is still in the top 20... sitting at number 19 in its second week. Vision Valley had a bigger drop it was in the 30's in its 2nd week i think from memory.
littlemissjoey
Jul 28 2008, 05:17 AM
Fantastic to hear Melodia is still in the top 20.
Untutored-Youth
Jul 28 2008, 04:56 PM
QUOTE(Youthgroup @ Jul 27 2008, 06:24 AM)

fuck off all you assholes who are bashing Patrick. Youth Group are as good as The Vines. The thing is they aren't trying to do the same thing as The Vines so you can't compare them. The Vines are rock and Youth Group is indie. so Fuck off and leave them alone.
I got nothing against Youth Group, but isnt it much easier for Indie bands to get high positions.
Here in England, one guy moans about something while playing a chord and it reaches the top 10.
MisplacedKeys
Aug 10 2008, 10:48 AM
Melodia is #6 on Top 20 Albums (All Distro) of AIR charts (Criteria for inclusion in the survey: Australian artists on independent labels, distributed by independent distributors).
Here.If that means anything to you.
pure_wonderment
Aug 10 2008, 12:47 PM
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Aug 10 2008, 08:48 PM)

Melodia is #6 on Top 20 Albums (All Distro) of AIR charts (Criteria for inclusion in the survey: Australian artists on independent labels, distributed by independent distributors).
Here.If that means anything to you.
It does to me!
*sees Hillsong at #2*.. grr
surfa les
Nov 25 2008, 01:57 AM
just think of how well it would have gone if it had some fucking publicity...
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