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yeah yeah great, and what about europe??????????????????
oh, 12th of july internationally?
make believe, i wanna have that song!

I don't know about continental Europe, but Melodia is available for preorder @ HMV in the UK. I think it's just an import, though.

will you order it from hmv??

what confuses me, is that we know for sure they are releasing the album in the UK, yet they havent released a single in the Uk??
hes a rocker was auz only...... how do they plan to sell many records without releasing any singles??!

No one in the UK will know this album exists... just like vision valley!
And the same thing is going to happen with the US. Theyre only targetting the old vines fans, which was prooven with Vision Valley not to be enough, because VV only sold like 7.000 in the US!!

It sucks I already pre-ordered the signed copy of Melodia.. I really want to hear 'Make Believe'..
Well, maybe I'll order anyways.. You can never have too many Vines CDs, I guess..

I bought the album today, the B-side is FREAKING AWESOME in my opinion!

I posted it here

*kisses your feet*

Aaah, thank youuu! I ittt! Aah!!!

Ooh thanks!!


Uhhhh....i am not sure if i like it....enuff.
I mean...i don't hate it....i am just not crazy about it. Its just *average*
Maybe it will grow on me.

OH MAN I THINK I LOVE YOU! Thanks.

Umm the song sounds very Vinesy, I love it. His voice is perfect. And the end just about made orgasm, but then it ended abruptly just like the other bonus songs.

I still like "Blue Jam" and "Hey Now" ..LOTS ..better then "Make Believe" and "He's a Rocker." ...IMO of course.

I'm not sure yet, but I will probably order an imported copy through a local CD store.


Actually, we don't know when the album is released in the UK. It could easily be further in July or August, or even in the autumn, so releasing another single later would make more sense.

Melodia is featured on the front page of Insound.com

New Releases


The Vines
Melodia
CD $13.98
The Vines are back! And Insound is the only place in North America where you can get the CD version of the band’s new full-length album, “Melodia.” Fourteen rapid-fire psych-garage-punk tracks that sound like early Beatles meets Nirvana. Pre-order now

Thank you
I actually like this one better than the other new b-sides.... or maybe that's because I've listened too much to Hey Now and Blue Jam.

mmm make beleive is alrite.... sounds like a track that wasn't good enough to be on VV, so I dont rate it that highly.

Blue Jam is my fav B side, its freakin awesome!

how did you already buy the album?

thank god someone in the U.S. is distributing it!! *immediately places order*




promotion has been shite, for sure, but then again...it may be that no one outside of oz is much interested in promoting a band that seemingly peaked with their first album in 2002. i'm not saying we the fans feel that way, but in the eyes of the industry...'highly evolved' is essentially viewed as their glory days musically and the rest is craig's descent into crazy and back. VV was touted as the comeback in the press, but then when it didn't make much of a ripple saleswise...

i just know their UK press dude said he had a hard time during VV 'selling' the band to the press there - NME, Q, etc. - because the mags claimed there wasn't enough interest in the band anymore to warrant space in their mags. harsh, i know, but also a reality.

that's why they could use that 'one single' which would impact radio and generate buzz to pull in non-fans who want to know more. the press/radio/tv follow when there's a swell of interest. *fingers crossed*

no no its just been pre-ordered. the album goes on sale the 14th of july in the uk

Oh man, to the person who uploaded "Make Believe" - thanks, mate!

My thoughts: I enjoy the jingle jangly aspect - kinda reminds me of a slowed down "Dope Train." I totally LMFAO at the "KA-CHAAAAA!" Craig screamed after the first chorus

sorry, some days i'm blonder than others.

and...*stern look*...i hope you U.S. peeps are ordering the album thru insound if you didn't do the aussie pre-order. we need to support our boys!!

europe and the rest of the world...i'm praying for ya!

if the production on make believe is anything is to go by- assuming it was recorded in the studio and didn't make the cut- then i like it.
The chorus is really catchy and I think it's lyrically very strong- it makes he's a rocker look like something written by a five year old. I like the song... but I understand why it's a b-side.

and another thing- this exclusivity deal concerns me.... why do it? what's the commercial interest in it.... people won't know it's around if it isn't on display in shops and stuff..... not sure what the thinking is there. any ideas?

I know what you mean, but even VV got a small bit in the NME, and got a 2 page spread in the Observer.
Hell, even Zane Lowe made Gross Out his worlds hottest record track when it got its first airplay.

The lack of promotion this time round isn't to do with British media snobbery, its to do with the plain simple fact that there isnt any!

I mean, they have a single and video (albeit a pretty crap one), to put it out there in the Uk would have got them a little bit of press. More press than if they didnt put a single out. Theyve paid the money for the video and single, why not use it?

Even the smallest indie bands in the UK have adverts in magazines for their albums, ive seen none!

Zane Lowe is still very interested in The Vines, he always catches up with them if he can, the fact he hasnt even played anything or said anything about the new album on his Radio1 show or Gonzo, goes to proove that there is nothing the UK in the form of advertising.

So how they expect the album to do well in the UK with absolutely NO advertising is beyond me!

well they dont have a US record deal at the mo, and that company was probably the few interested in doing it, but said they would only do it if they had exlusive rights to the distribution of it.

hey can you post it onto youtube or summin caus i use a mac and megau upload dont really work

I actually uploaded it on a Mac and downloaded it to make sure it was working, so it should work fine.

That's true actually.

I've seen absolutely nothing about The Vines anywhere over here in good old England.

I think there was a tiny bit in NME a few weeks / months ago but that's it.

The Vines need some decent promotion.

thx 4 upload! good vines song!

"Therefore, the album will not be sold in any U.S. stores and is only available via the Insound website."

is this for real, how the fuck will they make money jesus christ

Prostitution perhaps ?

will prob come to that soon!

on the bright side, the fanfics will just roll in

Bahaha, Craig a.k.a. Lola comes to mind.

If we're already picking wanton names for them, Ryan should be Mystique.

i think hamishs name should be chantal l'amour

^^ Hamish agrees.

Also, Brad could be Ruddiga Hill. *chortle*

yes please and chanel-zoey66 for craig please
(isnt this thread called The Vines' New Album Gets Exclusive US CD Deal?! ^^)

Who cares, I'm far too busy picturing our boys in drag.

aw it's not working for me

MegaUpload sometimes misbehaves. Does it say something along the lines of 'all slots assigned to your country are busy'? Then you should just wait until the rush hour is over and give it a try later, it usually works best for me in the morning or in the evening.

seriously who gives a fuck how many albums they sell...craig strikes me as a guy who doesnt give a fuck about money that much...as he said its not like hes begging for scraps at maccas...let the dude do whatever he wants

thank god for make believe...its a return to form but the songs on the album better be even better...i had all the faith in the world in craig and hes nearly blown it all away...thank you make believe...

Record companies give a fuck how many copies they sell. And they can't make albums without someone who's willing to distribute it.

Unfortunately, that's the reality.

you dont need record companies...get out of the past

How exactly do you propose they get the album out there then?

Wasn't the problem with US itunes that they don't have a deal over there?

And obviously just having Ivy League isn't doing them any favours.

'fraid you do. Simply for funding. Not just promotion, but to get into a recording studio, pay a producer, go on tour everything... in the situation the guys are in right now they won't have the funds to be able to do all that on their own.
Plus... the administration stuff as well, finding buyers, sellers, marketing, logistics, rights administration.... if a record company isn't there who's going to do that?

I do however agree that the role of the record company is changing and that their position as a large stakeholder and profit maker shouldn't stay how it is and i'm glad that's changing.

kekeke, who are you

and why do you think you have the right to kekeke :@

& also to stay on TOPIC i am just worried that they won't sell very many albums. go and say that it doesn't matter, but it really, really does. the promotion (if that's what it is) is a failure, where i am anyway. then again thinking about it now i haven't heard the vines on the radio or seen them on tv in years. it's still kind of sad that if i didn't check this forum i would have absolutely no fucking idea that this album even exists.

i'm not saying that the number of album sales are going to predict whether it's good or not, it just seems like a shame if it absolutely bombs. it would be nice to see some hype about them in the media again. it's just fucking disappointing really because i wanted to pick it up the day it was released, but since it's not going to be in stores then that sort of fucks that plan over!

maybe things will change. hopin that they will. i guess on the bright side it's possible they'll have to tour more to make the money they won't be getting if the cd doesn't sell.

it work now! much thanks
Make Believe is very Vines, and therefore very much loved

When your a huuggee band you don't necessarily do. But still then, they create their own label so they do essentially have a label, just theyre the bosses.

For the Vines this isnt an option, as they dont have the money nor are they very big anymore.
The success of this album will be a pivotal point in The Vines career, if this one fails like VV (sales wise, not musically) then the future doesnt look to bright for them. I think Vines fans know this, and this is why people are getting so annoyed because The Vines have thrown themselves into this album 110% but their record company couldnt seem to care less or are just so incompetent they don't know how to do their job. So how the record company expect to earn their money back and both parties make any money from the album is beyond me!

I hardly post here anymore but I still read the board and honestly, I am getting soooo tired of reading how the record label is doing such a bad job. We are not behind the scenes. We do not know what the label/management are trying to do for the band. Perhaps things are being held up that are out of management's control, like offers that are not beneficial to the band, etc? Or maybe the offers aren't many. Let's face it, the band aren't where they used to be anymore. Shit happens. A number of factors are to blame here. There's not just one reason but that's just how it goes sometimes.

What I do know for fact is that management truly care about the band and I highly doubt they'd do anything to sabotage The Vines.

It is a difficult time right now for them and I do pray The Vines can overcome any obstacles set before them but as fans, we need to be supportive and patient.

And to be fair, I wouldn't have allowed the extra tracks offered by iTunes and Insound to be shared here if it may hinder sales, because that's what the band really needs, especially now.

This is a critical time for them so if things like promotion aren't available for them at the moment, fans should take this opportunity to become sort of street teamers for the band, buy the album for friends and family and do all you can to keep the band working.

Let's stop blaming Ivy League for everything because it's really not fair since we do not know all of the facts.

Linda, you're right that we don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but you have to admit that it does defy common sense that they haven't taken advantage of some of the marketing opportunities that have been afforded to them- SXSW, the MTV awards. The website, for example, really SHOULD have been done by now no matter how superb it may or may not be. Things like this seem all the more pertinent considering that we know things are having to be done on a tight budget. I'm not accusing Ivy League of any sort of sabotage, and I don't think anyone else here is either- it's more frustrating than anything for two reasons:

1. we know how much everyone (including Ivy League) want this album to do well and for the vines to have the recognition they deserve.

2. because every other band out there with an album coming out at the same time seems to have taken advantage of cheap and lucrative marketing opportunities to publicize the album, let alone the fact that the boys are still very much around. Videos of them in the studio on youtube would have cost nothing and kept something trickling in the public eye. Releasing some of the non-album demos through the website would also have provided some sort of publicity. Radio appearances, I'm sure, would also have been possible- we know how much triple j love them- an interview about the album would have been amazing and useful. The international scene needs something- and that is why the website is so important.

We HAVE been supportive, and we HAVE been patient- very patient. It's 2 weeks until the album comes out, I'm just worried it could be too late- if this album is to get the turnover and recognition that the boys want and deserve then stuff will really need to start happening.... like... yesterday. At the moment, I'm genuinely concerned that we won't get any more vines after this album.

You're definitely right about the website but I can't help but wonder why things have been held up. There has to be a reason. It can't be out of sheer laziness or bad management.

And I do feel they have done some promoting, like with jmag and the MySpace Secret Show and their upcoming appearance on Channel [V]. They'll also be doing festivals like Fuji Rock and Splendour.

Maybe the site will launch the day of the release. Maybe they have some studio footage they are using for a press release dvd. Maybe they'll do a lot of press and promotion once the album is released. Who can say?

I'm sure all are working very hard on this so let's just see what happens.

doesn't really matter whose fault it is, if things don't change this album is not going to do well. it's really dumb that the site isn't up yet, plus the fact the cd is only available by ordering still pisses me off. it really limits more potential fans, because who is going to seek them out if the thing isn't in stores? personally if i was just getting into a band and their album wasn't available, i'd just download.

most of their promoting is in australia, which makes sense, but that internationally limits them as well. it's not exactly a good thing if i think about this album and get a bad feeling that it might be their last. i've believed in the vines for a long time now, but things need to start fucking happening already. maybe they'll never achieve the same fame again, but getting their albums in STORES and their site up wouldn't be a bad start would it? there's too many maybe's about this album and it makes me feel very, very uneasy.