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tyler
QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Jun 28 2008, 04:19 PM) *

You're definitely right about the website but I can't help but wonder why things have been held up. There has to be a reason. It can't be out of sheer laziness or bad management.

And I do feel they have done some promoting, like with jmag and the MySpace Secret Show and their upcoming appearance on Channel [V]. They'll also be doing festivals like Fuji Rock and Splendour.

Maybe the site will launch the day of the release. Maybe they have some studio footage they are using for a press release dvd. Maybe they'll do a lot of press and promotion once the album is released. Who can say?

I'm sure all are working very hard on this so let's just see what happens.


If there isn't a reason..... I can't do shit- and that's what pisses me off even more.

Jmag is all very well- but it's only in Oz. Craig has said he's ready for them to conquer the world again- that requires a lot more than a jmag article. They need to be hitting america with stuff- not just one website selling it. That requires interest obviously, maybe the deals offered were no good... we'll never know.

The secret show was just that- secret. What good is that to people other than us who are actively looking for vines material? Chanel v and Splendour- both aussie.

Too many maybes not enough action.
borgy
i think people are getting a bit too pessimistic now, the myspace secret show was a secret but alot of people turned up for a place that could only hold about 250 people. so alot of people still know they exist, they've just shifted from mainstream band to cult status. Triple J also played Manger on Tuesday and told people to pick up the Jmag with Craig on the cover. This album won't do too poorly in Australia cause im sure Triple J will be playing tracks from it during the year. Hell Vision Valley still managed a number 14 debut with zero promotion here.

It just won't do that well internationally but even so i don't think it will be their last album if Craigs already started writing for their next one. Oh there is also a Australian tour planned for later this year so if that goes well im sure they will make an international assault.

All this talk reminded me of this article, but defying all odds they are still here today. wink.gif

Promotion is slack as fuck internationally and the website is a disgrace, but im sure they will survive.

kazzama
QUOTE(borgy @ Jun 29 2008, 09:11 AM) *

i think people are getting a bit too pessimistic now, the myspace secret show was a secret but alot of people turned up for a place that could only hold about 250 people. so alot of people still know they exist, they've just shifted from mainstream band to cult status. Triple J also played Manger on Tuesday and told people to pick up the Jmag with Craig on the cover. This album won't do too poorly in Australia cause im sure Triple J will be playing tracks from it during the year. Hell Vision Valley still managed a number 14 debut with zero promotion here.

It just won't do that well internationally but even so i don't think it will be their last album if Craigs already started writing for their next one. Oh there is also a Australian tour planned for later this year so if that goes well im sure they will make an international assault.

All this talk reminded me of this article, but defying all odds they are still here today. wink.gif

Promotion is slack as fuck internationally and the website is a disgrace, but im sure they will survive.


Tripple J played Manger?

The whole song ?
borgy
QUOTE(kazzama @ Jun 29 2008, 09:22 AM) *

Tripple J played Manger?

The whole song ?


Yeah they did, whole track. I looked around the forum to see if anyone recorded it but no luck.
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(borgy @ Jun 28 2008, 04:49 PM) *

Yeah they did, whole track. I looked around the forum to see if anyone recorded it but no luck.

Has this been posted yet?
Found it on youtube..
Someone had recorded Manger from the secret show...Maybe this has been posted already for all i know. rolleyes.gif


Watch Craig dance around a bit... tongue.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqcZhGQO3Q


I love it!! biggrin.gif wub.gif ..........in spite of certain lyrics.. wink.gif ...that apparently i am misunderstanding. laugh.gif tongue.gif
I also just remembered they played it at the Troubadour in L.A. I just didn't remember that it was called Manger.
Sexhair
QUOTE(Vinechild @ Jun 28 2008, 07:21 PM) *

Watch Craig dance around a bit... tongue.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqcZhGQO3Q

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FIVE TIMES
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Sexhair @ Jun 28 2008, 06:01 PM) *

IPB Image
FIVE TIMES

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marilyn_monroe
Okay, now that's just plain terrifying laugh.gif

Yeah, the biggest thing I'm baffled about is why the hell the website isn't up! And this forum is only maintained by dedicated fans and basically always has been. Without people wanting to help with it, it would be basically dead mellow.gif . Same with the myspace, basically the same deal.
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(marilyn_monroe @ Jun 28 2008, 07:28 PM) *

Okay, now that's just plain terrifying laugh.gif


Hopefully you're referring to Pee Wee Herman and not Craig's dancing. tongue.gif wink.gif



QUOTE

Yeah, the biggest thing I'm baffled about is why the hell the website isn't up! And this forum is only maintained by dedicated fans and basically always has been. Without people wanting to help with it, it would be basically dead mellow.gif . Same with the myspace, basically the same deal.

Well...it looks like the the people that need to put the new website up and to run the forum are gonna have to be the hardcore dedicated fans. Seems no one else cares enough to bother. huh.gif
tyler
if it was played on triple j- for fucks sake please don't post it here. Album needs as much sales as it can get.

Mods- can someone please point out and re-enforce the policy on posting of songs which are (or very soon will be) available for purchase, and remove any links that are posted ASAP.
borgy
QUOTE(tyler @ Jun 29 2008, 06:48 PM) *

if it was played on triple j- for fucks sake please don't post it here. Album needs as much sales as it can get.

Mods- can someone please point out and re-enforce the policy on posting of songs which are (or very soon will be) available for purchase, and remove any links that are posted ASAP.


Ease up turbo the only people who really post or use this forum are real Vines fans not music pirates who plan on not buying the album. Hell posting a RADIO rip of Manger isn't gonna do any damage to album sales i mean after i heard it i wanted to hear it again and it made me even more excited to hear Melodia. Im even buying 2 copies 1 from JB online cause it's signed and another just cause i can't wait that long for it to come in the post.
allie9609
It's okay to post live recordings of the new songs, but if people could refrain from posting album versions of the songs, that'd be great! Mods can't check every post on this forum (though we try!), so if you see that someone has posted an album track please report the post and we'll get rid of it!
For more info about posting album tracks on this forum check out this thread here:
http://thevines.forumsunlimited.com/index.php?showtopic=3010

I know most fans are dedicated and loyal to band and would never rip them off by stealing their music... but there are people who post on this forum or who just visit as guests who wouldn't think twice about it. I know people are really excited about the album and just want to hear the new material as soon as possible, but the rule about not posting released tracks on the forum is a rule that we enforce pretty strongly. As Tyler said, the band need the sales, so lets help them out wink.gif . Thanks guys!
SlashNX
QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Jun 28 2008, 12:57 PM) *

I hardly post here anymore but I still read the board and honestly, I am getting soooo tired of reading how the record label is doing such a bad job. We are not behind the scenes. We do not know what the label/management are trying to do for the band. Perhaps things are being held up that are out of management's control, like offers that are not beneficial to the band, etc? Or maybe the offers aren't many. Let's face it, the band aren't where they used to be anymore. Shit happens. A number of factors are to blame here. There's not just one reason but that's just how it goes sometimes.

What I do know for fact is that management truly care about the band and I highly doubt they'd do anything to sabotage The Vines.

It is a difficult time right now for them and I do pray The Vines can overcome any obstacles set before them but as fans, we need to be supportive and patient.

And to be fair, I wouldn't have allowed the extra tracks offered by iTunes and Insound to be shared here if it may hinder sales, because that's what the band really needs, especially now.

This is a critical time for them so if things like promotion aren't available for them at the moment, fans should take this opportunity to become sort of street teamers for the band, buy the album for friends and family and do all you can to keep the band working.

Let's stop blaming Ivy League for everything because it's really not fair since we do not know all of the facts.


True we dont know whats going on behind the scenes, thats another problem with the label is that there is a lack of communications with the fans. Just to give us a few brief updates here and there would be nice.

And yes there may be complications which are holding things up.... but how hard is it to knock out a couple of posters and put them up. Or by a small advertising space in some magazines and put adverts in. Theres absolutely nothing stopping them from doing that.

Im sorry but at the moment the only people i can see putting the blame on are Ivy League, I'm sure they do care about The Vines, but they just seem to be pretty slack on what they do for them. It took quite awhile for The Vines new video to be put up on their youtube account. For ages they had just the old guy who makes no sense. there website is still "in development", and theres been zero advertisement in the UK.

as for the exlcusive extra song, ive already pre-ordered the album from OZ, im not going to buy another album from america just to get one song. and im sure its the same for everyone else. Everyone on here wants the album to do well and will buy a copy, but i think its pretty unfair to expect people to buy 2 copies of it just to get 1 song.


Out of interest too linda... what happened to Dreamintheinsane's forum?? I keep going back to check on it, but it doesnt look like its been used for months!
tyler
QUOTE(borgy @ Jun 29 2008, 09:58 AM) *

Ease up turbo the only people who really post or use this forum are real Vines fans not music pirates who plan on not buying the album. Hell posting a RADIO rip of Manger isn't gonna do any damage to album sales i mean after i heard it i wanted to hear it again and it made me even more excited to hear Melodia. Im even buying 2 copies 1 from JB online cause it's signed and another just cause i can't wait that long for it to come in the post.


.... and when they release information about there being a bonus track- where do you think people go to try and find it for free? here would be the number one place, surely? they don't even have to register. they could just help themselves. It's equally important that posting policy is reiterated in advance of the album so that - should the album leak- it isn't posted here and damage is to some extent minimised. As far as I'm concerned, if posting a b-side or a bonus track on here results in the loss of one sale of the album.... then damage has been done to the band.
tyler
QUOTE(SlashNX @ Jun 29 2008, 12:28 PM) *

Out of interest too linda... what happened to Dreamintheinsane's forum?? I keep going back to check on it, but it doesnt look like its been used for months!


it just got updated- change the phpBB2 in the address to phpBB3 and you'll get there. or go through the site- looks swanky!
Jungle Mind-ed
emmm, i don't know if anyone knows it, but what 'bout latinamerican fans?, like me. how will we can get it?
Vine Freak
QUOTE(tyler @ Jun 30 2008, 08:32 AM) *

it just got updated- change the phpBB2 in the address to phpBB3 and you'll get there. or go through the site- looks swanky!


Oh thanks so much. The page looks great. I was wondering where everyone was, thought everyone disappeared.
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(Jungle Mind-ed @ Jun 30 2008, 02:20 AM) *

emmm, i don't know if anyone knows it, but what 'bout latinamerican fans?, like me. how will we can get it?

You can order an import from abroad, and if you don't have a credit card/don't feel comfortable buying things over the Internet, try ordering it through a local CD store, it usually takes just as long as an import would have to arrive.
Wicky
yeah, I got all my cd's in a secondhand cdstore and they said that if I wanted the new album they could try and order it smile.gif
ohwellwhatevernevermind
i just ordered mine yay
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