a little thing.... might mean absolutely nothing whatsoever... but when you go to the front page- at the moment on the very left of the address bar is a symbol I have never noticed before...... take a look. probably means nothing....

What, those red dots that look a bit like a 80's inspired flower? Or am I missing something?

I think that's what he means. I haven't seen that before either. Maybe the new site will be up very soon

Or maybe it means absolutely nothing...

Nah, if that's the case I don't think it means much. That's the Plesk logo - the control panel/software that is apparently used for administration of the site. It's been there for quite a while now, actually - ever since the site was down, I think? You can see it in the corner.

Ah, ok. I didn't know that. But thanks for explaining that .
I hadn't seen it before so I got all excited

ah dammit. foiled again.

Oh I wish they hurry a bit with new site....this wait is annoying.

I think the main problem is that they are letting all the hype generated by playing sxsw go to waste. they're not doing themselves any favours by not having an up to date website and a shyte habit of updating their myspace. Other bands are simply putting them to shame.
Bottom line: they should have had a new website up ages ago - it should have been prepared and ready to go for when they started the mini-tour. What's there at the moment is fine for a week or so... but for months- sorry, but I think that's just awful promotion.
put yourself in the shoes of a new fan, you look up the website and you're greeted with the front page that's there at the moment. You're going to forget about them after a couple of days of checking back.
To be honest, I'm getting a little pissed off with how those responsible for keeping the fans in touch are dealing with this sort of thing. Everyone else is putting them to shame. There's having patience, and then there's whats going on here- which in the modern age of information media is ridiculous.

^
w0rd.
The new site had better have blinkin Gandalf-shaped fireworks coming out of the screen. This is all getting slightly ridiculous, seriously.

and somehow even that wouldn't be good enough at that point. Honestly, considering they are under new management- a new website- one of the main instruments, if not the main instrument for advertising the band would have been the first thing I changed.

they're not under new mgmt - it's still w&g - the thing that's changed is that w&g, who also operate ivy league records, are their sole record label at the moment. and, yes, you would think with w&g having so much at stake now that they're 'it' in terms of vines mgmt/label/promotion they'd step it up with the band's new website, myspace and other potential promotional outlets.

for the record, lizzy is doing all she can with the myspace - for over a year now, she's asked for vid footage, photos, and even new songs to add to their profile but it's up to mgmt/label/band to fulfill those requests. she's basically gotten sporadic news and tour info and that's it. it's frustrating that something like myspace reaches music fans the world over (54,000+ friends and counting!) and they're not capitalizing on that but that's their choice. *grr*

sometimes i wish the fans could manage them for a week - maybe we'd get them somewhere!

management / label... you know what I mean. Long day. I apologise.

Fact of the matter is, they're missing out on a lot of promo opportunity. And if dedicated fans who have been here since the beginning are starting to get pissed off with it, then the impression on new fans can't be better than that.
Given that it's make or break time for them right now- which, granted, means getting it right- you'd think they'd be a little more on the ball and ready for action in terms of promo. The band are playing great gigs, and all of that is meaningless without sufficient coverage in their online media.

I know first hand how it is when you don't use net, I got my pc last summer and since then i've learned and been informed about all the bands I liked. And first thing I do if I hear something new about some band I go to their web site or myspace.

And I agree with you all the site should be up and running a long time ago. I see how some other bands make promos and it is something that can be learned from. I am really surprised that so little has been done about promotion, and especially after SXSW gigs, it was such a good opportunity.

"new site coming soon"

from a financial perspective- it makes no sense not to promote a band. It might cost a fair amount to make a new website, but the costs of maintaining it are minimal. The band are going to suffer because of this complacency, and it's that which disappoints me the most. Under a new label with people we know care a lot about the band, you would have thought they would be keen to make a good first impression on both the band and the fans and put in the work on stuff like this right off the bat. I'm sure they have a lot going on with sorting out a US / Worldwide deal (they're still on heavenly here...), but that's no excuse.
If they want people to either rekindle, or find a new interest in the vines, it's this sort of stuff that really matters and directs people towards record stores and gigs. Things were really badly mismanaged with Vision Valley, and the band suffered as a result. It sure as hell better not happen again.

^ yeah i hear what you are saying.
Even though with Vision Valley, after coming out of a big hiatus and everything is understandable. But with this new record, they could be getting out there and starting again sorta, since thier last big hype was around 2004.
Craig and everyone is saying how good this album is going to be......they need to promote it!!



thanks for that
they are so cool, I've never seen them before

JEN! You've been missed!


I just hopehopehope this lack of news/updates/info means that there's something huge being prepared that will be launched as soon as the single is out.

I think they're just waiting for the album cover to get finished before updating the site. Because they're gonna design it like the cover, right? I agree that their websites should be updated though, since that's where most people get their info these days. (I sound like an old lady )

i think it's important that they launch the new site before the MTV performance, where they are no doubt going to get a ton of mainstream exposure again performing their new song and im sure after it people will start going to their website.. but it won't be functioning. Maybe they should add the new single to their myspace profile on that day to so people who like it can add it and give them heaps of exposure.

Jen, OMG it's so nice to have you back on here at last
i second the idea of the fans managing their myspace. this would probably help them alot. perhaps.
& we do know that Lizzy is doing her best, even more than this. i thank her a thousand times for this.

I hope that the MTV perfomance will be followed by the announce of the date of the album release. I think it will, i don't think they could play new hits on TV without putting an album soon after anyhow.

The website has been updated! It's still not fully launched, but a clip of the French guy and a link to He's a Rocker iTunes release have been added. I really don't understand why it took them so long to make such a small addition, though.

Haha me neither And it's really not that much of an update either but it at least shows that they're doing something about the site.

Oh good! It's not much but at least they've got the bare essentials up. Hopefully they keep adding to it...

OH UVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
This has got to be a joke right??! I waited 6 months for this?!
I could have knocked that up in my lunch break!

also why is it not the actual music video up? Anyone also noticed its not on ivyleagues youtube channel?!
Has anyone seen it on TV?

Im hoping theyve realised it was a terrible mistake and are quickly remaking another one!
But its more probably another part of Ivyleague's great lack of promotion for the vines!

ennyep,weird!!

but the old man rly cute..

duno if anyone has checked, but weeks after the singles been released, the video is finally up on the website replacing old guy.
No doubt the team behind the website will take a very long break after such exhausting work of putting a youtube link up on the "updated" site.

yikes, that is minimal and would've taken all of 15 minutes (tops!) to do.

it amazes me that there's not a label intern or even a local high school kid who could slap together a little something more exciting and informative.

oh well...at least they have links for purchasing the new album.

this is probably the shittest stuff i've ever seen. it's not that hard to make a website these days...

I can't believe the site is still not up yet! I do hope something more happens next week. Well, something must happen next week with the site.

If not, I'm buying myself a one-way ticket to sydney, kill some people, get put in prison and stay there (for that reason the onewayticket..) to rot away. but it will be worth it.

The site has been slightly modified yet again; it's got those Melodia crystals up now. It's shiny and looks sort of cheap, though.

I think it's fucking ridiculous that we're at release day and there isn't a new website. Absolutely dreadful. I could have forgiven whoever was in charge of this if they managed to put something good together for the release date- but this is just a joke. Absolutely dreadful- If I was the vines, I'd be suing for mis-management.

There could still be a new site coming tomorrow, right? Right?




Right, guys?

shame the album is out now.... also, is it me or did they forget a link to the forum? idiots. shoddy shoddy work.

No, it's not just you. I noticed it, too.

SERIOUSLY PEOPLEINCHARGEOFTHEWEBSITE

I could put together a decent website in a day

A DAY

AND I SUCK AT HTML

Get with it.

It's good that something is happening with the site but I would seriously have thought that they'd finished with it by now.

I really hope the site will be really, really good otherwise I can't understand why it took them so long.

lizzy's just gotten the artwork from mgmt. to make changes on the vines myspace, so yeah, it's all being done about as last-minute as you can get. she hopes to have the myspace changes up by tomorrow (saturday), but keep in mind she has a full-time job (whereas she does the myspace for free as a fan) and being handed the artwork this late-in-the-promo-game puts unnecessary pressure on her.

management set the album release date - it was their job to ensure the website/myspace/facebook/fanclub had all the info and artwork needed to build-up the album...preferably in advance of its release!

and, yes, the forum link needs to be added.

I've seen the MySpace page now.
It's quite..err.. tropical?

not so sure about the bling, though.

the bling was not my first choice

I fucking love the font for Melodia. Do you happen to know what it is? Or were you the one that chose it?

I love the new page for vines.com. The bling is great

errr... i hate to burst any bubbles but the new myspace looks la shite. like worse than before and that looked pretty amateur. It doesn't even represent the album art to my eyes. the new website though looks clean and blingtastic hopefully the full new site looks just as good. definitely need that forum link on there.

Ijust spent ages staring at the Melodia bling-ness trying to predict which diamontee is going to sparkle next
I pretty much agree with everything said above, except I quite liked the look of the myspace before

To be fair, you can't work wonders on MySpace's page design anyway, plus, Lizzy only had a few hours to do it, so I think she did a pretty good job, considering. The table pattern really doesn't look much like the album artwork, though.

Haha, it's M-M-O-E-D-A-I, I think.

I've been impressed with the management.

They got them a Channel V gig, did a myspace gig, have a JJJ coming up and Spendour.

There's been lots of articles about the band in the newspapers.

It's just a shame radio isn't playing the single.

the table pattern was snagged from a corner of the artwork I was given

It matched the original layout I had. Problem is, I was asked to change the background and now it doesn't match... so I asked if changing the table background would be alright and I'm waiting for a response

Totally agreed.

woah has anyone seen that the new website is finally up?