alright only highly evolved went gold in the states. anybody know why?

Was it because of the nirvana comparison?

fucking states did that last time with SILVERCHAIR.

Or were they just wanting to go back underground or whatever?

um strange this topic keeps disappearing and reappearing ?

Highly Evolved was, apart from being an amazing album, extremely wisely promoted, if I may put it that way. And it was accompanied with a massive tour.
Around Winning Days, Craig was becoming increasingly erratic, and media chose to focus on that rather than the music. The album got some pretty harsh reviews and all the hype was starting to get old. They only toured for about two months and then the whole Triple M assault thing happened, which didn't exactly help with anything.
Vision Valley wasn't promoted that much, there was very limited touring and everyone thought they had broken up, I guess.

Going gold doesn't mean that much, I think. I mean, it's of course great and splendid and earns them money, but that isn't everything. I once read this on a website about them: 'Anyone can sell a million copies of a record; it takes someone special to make a record that people will want to hear a million times.' And that's what The Vines are to me. People that make albums that I want to listen to a million times and then some more. Not a band I would listen to because they sold a certain amount of records.

Exactly, I'm on you with this one. Besides, some people might want them to be the biggest thing in the world again, and I know they deserve it as their music truly is the most amazing thing. But I'm afraid of the effects on Craig of going gold again, all I want is that he stays happy doing whatever he likes and generating great music. That's all.

alright cool, just don't forget maybe the states are just embrassed that we need international rock bands

alright cool, just don't forget maybe the states are just embrassed that we need international rock bands

I bet the nirvana comparison didn't help either but makes me wonder have they ever do covers of nirvana live?

Not that I know of.

They started off by playing a lot of Nirvana covers, but Craig started writing his own songs pretty soon, so I don't think any of the covers were recorded and they stopped playing them even before they got signed. They rather focused on their own tunes, I guess. It would be interesting to hear one of those covers, maybe Craig's got a home-recorded tape or a couple still lying around somewhere.

Oooh, maybe I should raid Craig's house to find one

I would love to hear craig sing heart shaped box

you go do that vine freak

Agreed.

that would be great

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think that's it! The States are too obseeseed with pop stars and rap stars, that there's just no room for rock anymore!

yeah i seen that happen soon as backstreet boys came out

the majority...but not everyone. In fact, indie music is quite recognized here, everyone knows pop music is just commercial crap.

oh and another thing, yea going gold or anything like that isn't important, but Highly evolved was THE best vines album, by far, and winning days was okay...the demos were much more interesting and had better lyrics, I have nothing good to say about vision valley, and i dont want you people killing me...

I seriously don't get why everyone dislikes VV so much, it has some amazing songs on it.
But anyway, I'm with ya on the demo thing. Their songs have always sounded better as demos than finished, polished album versions to me. What Craig can do with his voice and overlaying and echoing is simply amazing, I don't understand why they didn't want to keep that unique feel on the records and went for (seemingly) simpler, more ... I dunno, commercial? sound. I wish they just stopped using producers altogether, if all they do is harm/destroy the atmosphere of the song (not that I would know anything about producing anyway so please don't kill me, Mr Schnapf )

yeah visison valley is awesome

VV is fantastic. Spaceship is awesome.

^Agree.Spaceship is the best song on the album.It was my least played for ages and now i cant get enough of that song.

I think i actually like VV more than i like winningdays now, but i love em all they are like my babies I'd be lost without my vines cds .

^Agree on the demos too they always sound fucking amazing, craig voice is so magical.

I think them covering that nirvana song called talk to me would be cool

Just so y'all know, I heard Don't Listen to the Radio on the radio last night. Yeah I freaked out. They had it on shuffle, since it's Christmas and all.

that would be strange if they played that on the radio

Agreed.

On both.

I never heard it on the radio before I don't really listen to the radio but I remember my mother telling me that she was buying a sandwich at Togo's and she heard "a vines song" there and it was Don't Listen to the Radio

I have, only once though.

funnny