I'm serious. The government is supposedly going "out of business" on Monday, and they're not even having a sale..

I know at least Eva is a Michigan resident... are there anymore?

That can happen?

yup
if the budget gets fucked enough

i havent even heard about that yet...thats crazy

Yeah its really been on the lowdown...
I know alot of Michigan residents who don't know about it...

but yeah we'll lose most of our state police, drivers licenses will stop being issued, no stores will be able to stock alcohol, our taxes are going to skyrocket and we're going to lose alot of helathcare, education, and public safety funds....

so everyone is going to be fucked and we're going to run out of alcohol

what the

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14217025/detail.html

see! wtf man... wtf... get me out of here....

"What Partial Shutdown Means:

POSTED: 9:49 am EDT September 27, 2007
UPDATED: 10:53 am EDT September 27, 2007


If no budget agreement is reached by the end of the week, it's likely state government will partially shut down on Monday. Here's what that shutdown might look like, based on a release from Gov. Jennifer Granholm and Associated Press interviews with interest groups, labor unions and other organizations.

K-12 SCHOOLS: All districts should be able to remain open at least the first three weeks of October, after which they'll learn if they're going to get their next round of state aid payments. But then it gets dicey -- especially for schools that already have tapped their reserves while dealing with stagnant state funding in recent years.

Some districts told the Michigan School Business Officials they may have to shut their doors if a protracted state shutdown causes a missed payment. But most districts said they would tap their reserves or borrow more money to stay afloat. Several districts might start to trim back nonacademic programs -- including sports, field trips and other activities -- soon after a state shutdown to save money.


"The big picture is that school districts will do everything they can to stay open -- period," said Tom White, executive director of the Michigan School Business Officials.

PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES: The state's 15 public four-year schools and 28 community colleges should stay open, but layoffs or some other cutbacks are possible if the shutdown continues for long. Another option would be to raise tuition, which already increased an average of about 10 percent at universities this fall. Universities haven't received their August payments from the state, and the next payment is due Oct. 16. Combined, they account for $280 million. Some community colleges might have to borrow money or tap into their reserves to stay afloat.

"It's going to affect the small rural schools much more than the larger, urban schools," said Mike Hansen, president of the Michigan Community College Association. "Some of these schools could be on the brink of financial disaster."

PRISONS: The state's 42 prisons would stay open, and parolees and probationers in the community would continue to be supervised, state officials said. Corrections spokesman Russ Marlan said the assumption is 80 percent of the department's 16,000-plus employees would continue working and be paid. If those workers weren't paid, they would sue, said Mel Grieshaber of the Michigan Corrections Organization, which represents more than 10,000 correctional officers.

POLICE AND FIRE: At least some of the state's more than 1,000 state troopers are likely to stay on the job, but it's unclear what the extent of their services will be. At a minimum, some administrative state police jobs could be disrupted in a shutdown. Local police and fire departments depend heavily on state revenue-sharing checks. If those payments are held up, layoffs would vary from city to city, according to the Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police. The state already has about 1,600 fewer police officers than it had during the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11.

DETROIT CASINOS: Granholm says they would be closed down if there's a shutdown. But a casino spokesman said the casino operators hope to persuade the Michigan Gaming Control Board on Thursday that state regulators are paid with casino fees rather than tax dollars, so the regulators should be able to do the oversight needed to keep the casinos open. If they close, 7,000 casino workers will be out of a job and the casinos no longer will pay taxes amounting to $450,000 a day for the state and $440,000 a day for the city of Detroit.

LOTTERY SALES: Lottery spokeswoman Andi Brancato says the Lottery Bureau will hold some drawings next week, even if there's a shutdown, because tickets already have been sold for them. But a shutdown would mean no new tickets would be sold starting Monday, and no prizes would be paid out on winning tickets until the shutdown ends. Ending ticket sales would cost the state about $2 million a day in lost lottery profits, which go to K-12 schools.

DRIVER'S LICENSES AND VEHICLE TITLES: Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land says branch offices would close if there's a government shutdown. The department processes 85,000 transactions daily, including 10,000 driver's licenses, 36,000 license plate tabs and 12,500 vehicle titles. People could still use the Internet or mail to request some services. But no one would be working to process any requests until the shutdown ends.

ROAD PROJECTS: Construction would stop on state road projects, according to the Michigan Infrastructure and Transportation Association, although some traffic safety workers might remain. Less clear is what happens to just-in-time delivery of bridge supports and other large materials that were ordered long ago and are set to be shipped early next week. Some worry that even a one-week delay in road construction will cause some projects to be unfinished when winter sets in, delaying completion until next spring. The Mackinac Bridge would stay open, said Liz Boyd, the governor's press secretary.

HEALTH CARE: Many assume the state's psychiatric hospitals likely would remain open, but some other programs -- including nutrition and disease prevention education and health-related inspections -- could be scaled back or shut down.

Medicaid reimbursement payments to doctors and hospitals might be stopped, which could lead some health care providers to decline to see patients, at least in non-emergency situations. Home health care workers paid partly by the state could be off the job.

LIQUOR: The state would stop distribution of packaged liquor, which eventually could limit the supply available in stores across the state.

ENVIRONMENT: No workers would be available to issue air, water and other permits, potentially affecting the environment and hampering businesses who need permits to operate. Regulators might not be around to monitor pollution affecting rivers, lakes and streams.

AGRICULTURE: Inspections of food and dairy products, pesticide and fertilizer plants and a range of commodities would cease, agribusiness groups say. There also would be no one to inspect if gasoline and diesel pumps were accurate.

CAMPING, HUNTING AND FISHING: The state already has closed 20 of its 138 forest campgrounds because of the tight budget. A partial shutdown could close the rest, along with all 13,500 campsites located at 71 state parks. The season for hunting deer with bows is scheduled to start Monday, and outdoor groups expect it to occur. But there may be no conservation officers checking licenses or manning check stations. Up to 350,000 people bow hunt. A shutdown could affect oversight of the state's six fish hatcheries, though the Michigan United Conservation Clubs says it's working on plans to possibly set up volunteer crews to run them. "

I'm a michigander, and luckily i goto a catholic school that isn't paid government aid so i still get education =D.

finally a benefit from listening to silly religion teachers.

This sucks. The state needs tourism dollars. I need a job-I think everyone in Michigan is fucked right now.
I hope it turns around sometime soon!
I know that this is supposedly (it may happen it may not) but the governer needs to quit sitting on her ass, and stop putting freezes on every job, and start creating jobs. A government shutdown does not creat jobs. I mean, how are people supposed to find work?

oh my god oh my god NO ALCHOLE r they retarded ubundj i dont know what 2 say oh so no safty greeaat high crime! michigan residents lock up!

Anarchy in Michigan?

This sounds so absurd. How the fuck does this happe`n?

It's our fucking governer that's been more of a problem than a solution.
What the state needs is a governer that is going to be more of a solution than a problem. I really wish I had voted for the other guy. He knew how to get things done. (i'm referring to Dick DeVoss.)

Engler was the one who left us in a deficit. Granholm just didn't fix it... and I really don't think Dick DeVoss would have done better. He was a bit too into having companies take things over and get paid for it....

It was mostly the republicans in the legislature refusing to strike a deal with the governor so they could blam the shutdown on her and the Governor not trying to find a middle ground with the legislators so she could blame it on them...

its all politics
and its all of their faults

I still dont think how anyone can think this is justified though
if I understand it correctly

Its not justified
it doesn't make sense


the state has had months and months to straighten it out

well they fucked that up what where they doing with all that time picking there ass

that shouldnt be allowed to happen...
the government can be so annoying sometimes

No... they were trying to make people like them by setting up more state funded social programs and hyping the hell out of them... which obviously can't be funded if the state has no money

oh and ya know talking shit to each other and talking shit publicly about each other...

People need to think about there actions before they act... All it's doing is destroing childrens futures, empty promisses are not going to get the community anywhere but it might even cause proplems with in the city it self! put some1 in there that will do the job and do it fucking well!

So if there's no state, does that mean Michigan is some kind of a grey zone? And moreover, if Michigan no longer exists with a government and all, are the residents even US citizens anymore? And how the fuck can that happen in a supposedly developed country?

Further on; will Canada buy it off of USA?

I was watching the news yesterday, and everyone wants to come up with a solution that will avpoid a shutdown. So hopefully, there won't be a shutdown on Monday. Everyone is trying to be optimistic about finding a solution that will please everyone.
And Canada isn't going to buy Michigan. Michigan will still be part of the US.

I figured that much, I was just kiddin.

Okay!

Our governor is Canadian

no if the government shuts down it has federal take over
the state will still exist but there will be limited state services and funds

I'm totally for just breaking off and becoming our own country

That's good.
But I'm more concerned about the state of public libraries. I know that those could go into shutdown. I go to my library all the time to get books to read before I buy them. My books are due on Oct. 19. I just hope that the State does avoid a shutdown.
Increasing a service tax on nonessential services is a good start.

The libraries depend city by city

my aunt is a librarian and hasn't heard any threat of any closing down

YAY Free health care!!!!!1

we were only closed for 4 hours

they raised taxes bah...

That was a relief. So, there's a temporary bill in place. It's only good for 30 days, and then at about end of October/beginning of November, they then have to go back and discuss a final budget plan.

I seen a car today with a Michigan license plate. I was like "hmmm, wonder what they're doing here in this small town of Illinois" then remembered this thread. I wonder if that was why.

yup

hopefully they'll actually discuss it before the the end of October so we don't have to go through this again

That's good!


Hopefully. I'm crossing my fingers.
I think the increase in sales tax and income tax will help the budget out a lot. I know that a lot of people don't agree with a tax hike, but you have to do something when a budget is in crisis. I know it doesn't seem like a lot, but every little bit helps.