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Brooklyn Girl
Soon you'll hear The Vines cover The Veronicas' debut hit 4Eva on the upcoming album, No Man's Woman (A Tribute to Women in Voice), which features Australian male artists interpreting songs made famous by female singers. The Veronicas' Lisa and Jess Origliasso reckon it's "totally awesome." "We're so stoked," Lisa says. "We heard it this morning. I love all the harmonies (Craig Nicholls) does. They've so completely made it their own but they've kinda stayed true to the foundation of the song. They've definitely put their edge to it." The compilation album will be out October 20th through Dew Process/UMA. Look out for it!

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TRACKLISTING:

ANGUS STONE – 'RIVER' – JONI MITCHELL
POWDERFINGER – 'GLORYBOX' – PORTISHEAD
THE VINES – '4EVA' – THE VERONICAS
EXPATRIATE – 'MISSING' – EVERYTHING BUT THE GIRL
LIOR – 'LANDSLIDE' – FLEETWOOD MAC
BOB EVANS – 'CARS WHEELS ON A GRAVEL ROAD' – LUCINDA WILLIAMS
END OF FASHION – 'HANGING ON THE TELEPHONE' – BLONDIE
DAN KELLY – 'NOTHING COMPARES TO YOU' – SINEAD O'CONNOR
WHITELY – 'HYPERBALLAD' - BJORK
JOSH PYKE – 'WUTHERING HEIGHTS' – KATE BUSH
THE HERD – 'FAST CAR' – TRACY CHAPMAN
PAUL KELLY – 'TO BRING YOU MY LOVE' – PJ HARVEY
GYROPSCOPE – 'CANNONBALL' – THE BREEDERS
GRINSPOON – 'BOYS IN TOWN' – DIVINYLS
TEX PERKINS – 'I AM WOMAN' – HELEN REDDY

For more news, check out Hamish Rosser's report on News in Vinesland.
Sexhair
Awesomness! biggrin.gif
Lone
QUOTE(J-e-s-s-i-c-a @ Sep 6 2007, 05:14 AM) *

Awesomness! biggrin.gif

You've got Julian in your sig, baby:D
New track, can't wait rolleyes.gif
Spaceship in the Yard
Thanks for the news, Linda. I can't wait to listen to the new track. biggrin.gif I just checked the DTI and there's also: An Update from Hamish. Dear God, I hope they find a new producer soon. pray.gif
she's in the melting pot
That sounds cool but why on earth would they do a veronica's song wink.gif ? Not a fan of the veronica's at all but would give it a whirl to hear the vines interpretation of it.
dani_california
it's so crazy my head just exploded
SimplyDi-Vine
About time boys! rolleyes.gif

MisplacedKeys
Not that I'm not thrilled about the new song, but The Veronicas? huh.gif Whatever made them choose them? 4eva gets more annoying every time I hear it. wacko.gif
What's about identical twin sisters that men like so much?
intotheworld
I can't wait to hear this new song!! I'm so excited to be able to hear his voice again... wub.gif

I so wish they could come here to the US and work with Rob Schnapf again, but I guess that's not feasible at this point. sad.gif
evie dee
This is such great news! yahoo.gif
Ryan's Snakebites
Okay..odd question...is it a "real" Vines track or is it just Craig??!! Anyone know??
Brooklyn Girl
QUOTE(Ryan's Snakebites @ Sep 6 2007, 12:18 PM) *

Okay..odd question...is it a "real" Vines track or is it just Craig??!! Anyone know??

Do you mean if it's The Vines doing the cover or is it just Craig? Because if that's the question, it's definitely The Vines (see tracklisting above).
Ryan's Snakebites
Yeah...that's what I meant...just thinking back to I'm Only Sleeping...and I know that there was only Craig & Pat then....but just wondered if all 4 played or just some of them? Things like this can still get "The Vines" credit even if it ain't the whole band...Think The Beatles and The Ballad of John & Yoko...no Ringo...no George...just John and Paul...but its still a Beatles track!! Ta though, Linda!
2gether_we_fall
wow it must be at radio stations and stuff already, coz yesterday when i was driving home triple j was playing the end of fashion blondie one, coz i was all "i know this song, but it doesnt seem right, why is somone covering blondie?? tongue.gif i thought it was one of their like a version thingies, except not accoustic . . .. anyway it was pretty good so i cant wait to hear the vines version!!!
but again . . . urgh veronicas tongue.gif
mooshell
AHHH this is so exciting! yahoo.gif I never heard of The Veronicas, so I watched the "4ever" video. They're cute. dry.gif Haha, I can't wait to hear this...it's gonna be sexy when Craig sings "Let me take you on the ride of your life". 490.gif laugh.gif About the new songs, can't fucking wait for that. HURRY HURRY HURRY! And I'm so glad Craig loves America, 'cause that means tour. Dingdingding! *dies* fediojadkskfjaksjeisa.
thePotIntheGarden
I replied earlier this morning at DTI already, but I'll say here too that it made me so, so excited! Even the professor saw it (while we were supposed to be doing something else in unision) but he didn't say anything to me, so that made me all the more excited. (And later he got really happy that I was the first person to figure out how to record all the answers to our quiz in one screencapture, rolleyes.gif computer dork he is, so I think he forgot anyway).
annie
oh gay
it's cool that they're doing a new track
but the veronicas?
ew.
please tell me they didnt PICK that song..
Brooklyn Girl
QUOTE(Ryan's Snakebites @ Sep 6 2007, 12:26 PM) *

Yeah...that's what I meant...just thinking back to I'm Only Sleeping...and I know that there was only Craig & Pat then....but just wondered if all 4 played or just some of them? Things like this can still get "The Vines" credit even if it ain't the whole band...Think The Beatles and The Ballad of John & Yoko...no Ringo...no George...just John and Paul...but its still a Beatles track!! Ta though, Linda!

During the time of I'm Only Sleeping, there was only Craig and Pat (remember Dave left the band at that point and they didn't have Hamish or Ryan yet).

With the track 4Eva, I don't know if they're fans of the Veronicas but like with The Beatles I'm Only Sleeping, they were given that track to remake. Originally Craig wanted Strawberry Fields but it was already taken by another artist. So the Veronicas track may not have been picked by them. Perhaps we'll find out later but from what is being said, at least The Vines made it their own.

I know I'm excited to hear it!
thePotIntheGarden
Okay; I was wondering about that too, whether they got to choose or were assigned...cool.
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(mooshell @ Sep 6 2007, 11:22 PM) *
And I'm so glad Craig loves America, 'cause that means tour.

Yes, do rub it in. If they're doing America, there's very little [even lesser than usual, ohoho] chance they'll come to ol' Europe. sad.gif

QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Sep 7 2007, 11:17 AM) *

I don't know if they're fans of the Veronicas

They better not be. mellow.gif
Sexhair
< that's what I am saying

I don't really like the song but I am still just excited to hear Craig's voice. biggrin.gif
Recorded Butterflies
The Veronicas?!!?!?

ermm.gif

didn't see that coming!

BUT The Vines are making it their own so it'll probably sound good!! Can't wait to hear it!!

SimplyDi-Vine
QUOTE(intotheworld @ Sep 7 2007, 03:04 AM) *
I can't wait to hear this new song!! I'm so excited to be able to hear his voice again... wub.gif

I so wish they could come here to the US and work with Rob Schnapf again, but I guess that's not feasible at this point. sad.gif


Yea i no, in my opinion its a shit song rolleyes.gif

evie dee
I don't really like the Veronica's.
2gether_we_fall
i dont like the song either, but i rekon the vines'd b able to make me like it tongue.gif
Do_Not_Eat_Your_Friends
I dont really know who they are.. but I guess craig will manage to do somethin great with the song
tyler
QUOTE(intotheworld @ Sep 6 2007, 06:04 PM) *

I so wish they could come here to the US and work with Rob Schnapf again, but I guess that's not feasible at this point. sad.gif


For the sake of the band, the next album and what's left of this bands reputation- I really really hope not. I blame him for murdering winning days.

I've said it on DTI- but Nick Launay or Rich Costey- someone who will drive the band in the right direction and encourage them to push their sound into new areas. I believe Nick likes to work in Oz....

oh and I hate that song, if I didn't see their faces in the video- it could have been avril or kelly clarkson or pink... they all sound the same. There is no way Craig would have picked that out, not a chance, if you look at the rest of the track listing I think there's choices which would be much more up his street. I hope they have made it their own enough for it to be almost totally unrecognizable from the horrific singing I just heard.
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 10:18 AM) *

oh and I hate that song, if I didn't see their faces in the video- it could have been avril or kelly clarkson or pink... they all sound the same.

Well guess what. Same people wrote 4eva, U+ur hand and Since U Been Gone. Imagine that. I'd thought they'd have at least contributed to the writing process of their first ever single a tiny weeny bit, but no, how could that preposterous thought ever cross my mind?

Argh.
tyler
seriously? classic.

well... any publicity is good publicity i guess. it's new vines material and even though the veronicas made it sound like a cat being mauled in a cement mixer I am sure the boys will be able to make something better out of it. fingers crossed.
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 05:59 PM) *

seriously? classic.

Yup, all three songs are written by Max Martin and Dr. Luke and Dr. Luke wrote Avril Lavigne's Girlfriend as well. And I thought the generic sound was a pure coincidence.
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 05:59 PM) *

well... any publicity is good publicity i guess.

Heh, they're kinda trying to get different interest groups interested, don't they? First, there was that "save the seals!" thing to get vegetarians and animal lovers to the fan camp and now they're targeting feminists by being on an album entitled A Tribute to Women in Voice. Smooth.
Spaceship in the Yard
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Sep 9 2007, 04:10 PM) *

Heh, they're kinda trying to get different interest groups interested, don't they? First, there was that "save the seals!" thing to get vegetarians and animal lovers to the fan camp and now they're targeting feminists by being on an album entitled A Tribute to Women in Voice. Smooth.

Well, that's smart of them! Sneaky, in a way, popping up in different fields. tongue.gif But I wouldn't mind having more people getting interested in them. They deserve to be known by all sorts of people...it's all for the benefit of mankind, really. Ahh, and I wouldn't worry about them doing a cover for the Veronicas...I have confidence in Craig being able to turn the song into something awesome. They covered Outkast, music initially different in genre, and look how the covers turned out! biggrin.gif It's gonna be great!
tyler
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Sep 9 2007, 05:10 PM) *

Yup, all three songs are written by Max Martin and Dr. Luke and Dr. Luke wrote Avril Lavigne's Girlfriend as well. And I thought the generic sound was a pure coincidence.

Heh, they're kinda trying to get different interest groups interested, don't they? First, there was that "save the seals!" thing to get vegetarians and animal lovers to the fan camp and now they're targeting feminists by being on an album entitled A Tribute to Women in Voice. Smooth.



girlfriend was 'borrowed' though was it not? mwa ha ha.

i think it's because it's a cover that is in- for arguments sake- the same genre as the vines. At least with outkast the had the flexibility to take it where they wanted to. I think they are slightly more limited with this. I just hope they didn't have some shit producer telling them that it had to sound similar to the original. We know there's lots of harmonies so lets hope that is a good sign. Not that I don't have faith in them.. I do. I just hope that the band had enough input to be able to change it significantly. The use of Craig's voice alone is an obvious improvement though.. hehe.
Spaceship in the Yard
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 05:42 PM) *

i think it's because it's a cover that is in- for arguments sake- the same genre as the vines.

Sorry, I had to argue with this. But please don't put them in the same genre. The Veronicas are- from what I've heard recently- pop all along...they're totally different.
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 05:42 PM) *

The use of Craig's voice alone is an obvious improvement though.. hehe.

This I have got to agree with.
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 07:42 PM) *

girlfriend was 'borrowed' though was it not? mwa ha ha.

Yeah, those people aren't really original, now are they? 4eva sounds so much like U+Ur Hand that 4eva sounds like a wrong(er) version of the other song. And I think I read somewhere the beat was taken outta Kelly Clarkson's song.
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 07:42 PM) *

I just hope that the band had enough input to be able to change it significantly.

I'd rather if they changed it completely. Cos as I said before, 4eva is a bloody annoying song that I can't bear to listen to.
tyler
QUOTE(Spaceship in the Yard @ Sep 9 2007, 07:04 PM) *

Sorry, I had to argue with this. But please don't put them in the same genre. The Veronicas are- from what I've heard recently- pop all along...they're totally different.

This I have got to agree with.


whether you like it or not the vines fall into the category of pop rock. The distinction lies in two factors: 1) the veronicas don't write their own material as they are too shit- whereas the vines write their own (covers aren't featured on albums so they do not count, at any rate they are made their own by the vines) and 2) the veronicas are shit and untalented. The Vines are not.
evie dee
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 04:02 PM) *

whether you like it or not the vines fall into the category of pop rock. The distinction lies in two factors: 1) the veronicas don't write their own material as they are too shit- whereas the vines write their own (covers aren't featured on albums so they do not count, at any rate they are made their own by the vines) and 2) the veronicas are shit and untalented. The Vines are not.

I second that!
thePotIntheGarden
QUOTE(Spaceship in the Yard @ Sep 9 2007, 01:01 PM) *

Ahh, and I wouldn't worry about them doing a cover for the Veronicas...I have confidence in Craig being able to turn the song into something awesome. They covered Outkast, music initially different in genre, and look how the covers turned out! biggrin.gif It's gonna be great!



QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 01:42 PM) *

We know there's lots of harmonies so lets hope that is a good sign. Not that I don't have faith in them.. I do. I just hope that the band had enough input to be able to change it significantly. The use of Craig's voice alone is an obvious improvement though.. hehe.


yeah


QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Sep 9 2007, 03:35 PM) *

And I think I read somewhere the beat was taken outta Kelly Clarkson's song.

And there's another of Kelly Clarkson's songs that uses the guitar solo, without courtesy or permission, out of Maps by the YYYs.
mooshell
No wonder everytime I tried to sing 4eva, I kept singin U + Ur Hand instead. mellow.gif And yeah, when I first heard the song I was thinkin "Whoooah, these lyrics are way cheesy. I can't imagine Craig singin this..." I still wonder how it's gonna turn out. Maybe I'm just trying to be open minded and optimistic, but it'll probably surprise us and be really great. I mean, Craig's voice does wonderful things. wub.gif

QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Sep 7 2007, 08:42 AM) *

Yes, do rub it in. If they're doing America, there's very little [even lesser than usual, ohoho] chance they'll come to ol' Europe. sad.gif


I'm sorry. sad.gif If I could, I would pay for your plane ticket and we could go together. Now that would be awesome! I'd much rather do that than drag my friends who aren't even a real fans. dry.gif
annie
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Sep 8 2007, 01:42 AM) *

They better not be. mellow.gif


amen to that.
stephi
i think its gud that there redoing it cause now i can accurlly listen to it without my ears bleeding

lol
Spaceship in the Yard
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 08:02 PM) *

The distinction lies in two factors: 1) the veronicas don't write their own material as they are too shit- whereas the vines write their own (covers aren't featured on albums so they do not count, at any rate they are made their own by the vines) and 2) the veronicas are shit and untalented. The Vines are not.

I couldn't have said it better.
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 9 2007, 08:02 PM) *

whether you like it or not the vines fall into the category of pop rock.

But whenever did they fall into that category? wtf.gif
Whatever, it's pointless in arguing so long as we know that the boys are an original band, and produce great music. Let's just hope for the best that they're capable of turning shit into gold...which I think they most likely will with that 4eva song. tongue.gif
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(mooshell @ Sep 10 2007, 12:01 AM) *

I'm sorry. sad.gif If I could, I would pay for your plane ticket and we could go together. Now that would be awesome! I'd much rather do that than drag my friends who aren't even a real fans. dry.gif

Aww, you're the sweetest! hug.gif Aww, I wish we could all gather in one venue and go nuts together. *sigh*

QUOTE(Spaceship in the Yard @ Sep 10 2007, 07:41 PM) *

Let's just hope for the best that they're capable of turning shit into gold...which I think they most likely will with that 4eva song. tongue.gif

And when they do that, they are entitled to take over the world. hail.gif


And I went to check the Veronicas' forum to find out if their fans know about the song and if there's controversy around it comparable to the controversy over here. The response has been very small so far, but what I however did find is the whole article from which The Veronicas were quoted in the intial post. If anyone wants to read the segment, concerning The Vines, here it is.
QUOTE
One idea they have greeted as totally awesome (in Veronicas-speak) is The Vines covering their debut hit 4Ever for a new compilation, No Man's Woman, which features Australian male artists interpreting songs made famous by female singers. In unison, they proclaim their love of the band and their version of the guitar pop anthem. They go nuts when it is suggested that perhaps The Vines will adopt the song into their live set, as they have done for several years with Outkast's Miss Jackson. "They were the soundtrack for our American life when we first got to LA. Whenever we were going anywhere we would put in their CD," Lisa says. "I love it. We're so stoked. We heard it this morning. I love all the harmonies Craig Nicholls does. They've so completely made it their own, but they've stayed true to the foundation of the song. They've definitely put their edge to it."

Whole article here: http://board.theveronicas.com/index.php?sh...c=32023&hl=
Nice to see they're fans of the guys, too bad they aren't half as good, though. tongue.gif
But "the guitar pop anthem"? LOLOLOL.
evie dee
^rofl3.gif
2gether_we_fall
The album also includes stand out tracks from Powderfinger, The Vines, Tex Perkins, Angus Stone and many more. For the first time, the full track listing is revealed. Each track was chosen by the artist for what it means to them personally and reflecting this very diverse array of artists.


now what on earth do the veronicas mean to craig?? tongue.gif
i bet they wanted to do the divinyls - i touch myself but grinspoon beat them to it!!
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(2gether_we_fall @ Sep 10 2007, 11:04 PM) *

Each track was chosen by the artist for what it means to them personally

NO. Please NO. NONONONO. This is just wrong. Please tell me Hamish's girlfriend chose that one or something. Argh. They could NOT choose that song by themselves. DON'T THEY HAVE EARS?
*cue apocalypse*
QUOTE(2gether_we_fall @ Sep 10 2007, 11:04 PM) *

now what on earth do the veronicas mean to craig?? tongue.gif

Lesbian fantasy with twins (!!!) every perverted man has. I bet he wouldn't mind serving them exotic Turkish meals. Arghhhh.
QUOTE(2gether_we_fall @ Sep 10 2007, 11:04 PM) *

i bet they wanted to do the divinyls - i touch myself but grinspoon beat them to it!!

rofl3.gif Now that would be more like it.
mooshell
Whaaaa?!?! Maybe 'cause they're Australian? I don't know, I give up. Everyone has their guilty pleasures I guess...man I hate to diss a band that means so much to them. Buuut... I'm gonna listen to it again, just to make sure I really don't like it. unsure.gif
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(mooshell @ Sep 10 2007, 11:22 PM) *

Maybe 'cause they're Australian? I don't know, I give up.

I bet it's some cheesy story about The Veronicas coming to the band and telling them how much they like them so the guys, the nice blokes they are, decided to return the favour by this vile act. rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(mooshell @ Sep 10 2007, 11:22 PM) *

Buuut... I'm gonna listen to it again, just to make sure I really don't like it. unsure.gif

I'm certain I don't like it. handsfoldedsign42.gif There's nothing likeable about that song, unless you think plagiarism is kinda cute.
mooshell
Ahhh ok I just listened to it. I studied and observed, but my results still come to: high pitched screaming and cheesy lyrics. confused0006.gif Maybe you're right. I mean, it's too much of a coincedence that The Vines chose them, and they just so happen to be big fans! If not, there's three other possibilities...

a. Craig (or another member) wants to get with them. pinch.gif
b. Craig (or another member) really likes their music. pinch.gif
c. Both a & b wacko.gif
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(mooshell @ Sep 10 2007, 11:43 PM) *

a. Craig (or another member) wants to get with them. pinch.gif
b. Craig (or another member) really likes their music. pinch.gif
c. Both a & b wacko.gif

You forgot the most likely
d. Someone put something in their drinks.

mellow.gif Oh c'mon. I cannot believe this. *growls* Somehow I find the idea of Craig liking their looks less repulsive than Craig liking their music.
mooshell
^ Haha I have no idea what's going on, maybe he's trying to throw us off track. But...okokok, I think we're all taking this way too seriously. It's just a cover anyway. And it probably won't sound anything like the original. It's gonna be Craig's voice, and the instruments won't sound as popish. And if it is that bad (which I doubt), then we'll have the next album to look forward to and all will be good. So let's just sit back and relax, wait for it to come out, and then judge. I'm not trying to come across know-it-allish, just trying to stop the banghead.gif wtf.gif huh.gif. *ends pep rally speech* tongue.gif
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