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SimplyDi-Vine
QUOTE(Spaceship in the Yard @ Sep 18 2007, 12:33 AM) *
whereas the Veronicas' singing makes them fill me with disgust.


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MisplacedKeys
Just for the record, slowed-down does not equal bored, if that's what made you guys think he sounded bored. I don't think he sounds remotely half-arsed or not interested. To me, he sounds dreamy, if anything. The thing about songs like 4eva &other Veronicas/Kelly Clarkson/"pop-punk" princess crap is that the vocals tend to be drawled, which may give it a lazy feel and slowing down only adds to the effect. Craig added maturity and real feelings to it, rather than just leave it with that *spiffy* squealing poser naiveté it originally possessed. Quite an improvement, I'd say.

QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 16 2007, 12:00 AM) *

I've decided this song is like a catalog of what the vines do with songs like this, all the hooks and everything, all those tricks. They're all in this song and it works. fucking well.

Yeah well, the song needed a lot of work, as shitty as it was. wink.gif
thePotIntheGarden
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 15 2007, 07:06 AM) *

doesn't change the fact that the lyrics are still shit though. They honestly could have been written by a 13 year old. Maybe this is an illustration of the fact that it doesn't matter too much what you sing as long as the melody is good and its sung with some sort of feeling.



QUOTE(mooshell @ Sep 16 2007, 09:46 PM) *

Make such a bullshit song with ridiculous lyrics so natural and sweet sounding? Yes the lyrics are still the same, but I'm too distracted by all the beautiful melodies to even care, which I didn't even notice in the original for some reason. Maybe because Craig's voice sounds so real and compliments the music so well, it let's the melody shine through more or something.



QUOTE(Spaceship in the Yard @ Sep 16 2007, 11:55 PM) *

The lyrics are shit, but I like it when Craig sings em.



QUOTE(mia @ Sep 17 2007, 03:52 AM) *

I love the chorus and the harmonies are brilliant, though I thought the verses sounded a little empty unsure.gif and even though the lyrics are shit


Yeah, I agree about the bad lyrics thing...I tried to get over it, but it's repetitive and...well, it was for the Veronicas, so that kind of format is accepted in pop it seems...but anyway, that's our band's magic - They've made it into a good song smile.gif icon12.gif
tyler
QUOTE(Spaceship in the Yard @ Sep 17 2007, 03:33 PM) *

Just went to check out how many plays the song has so far, and yes, still on top! I hope the record company can tell that this was all because of the Vines and their talent...And hopefully sign the boys, so that the album can be out earlier? tongue.gif


I'm telling you that won't happen because that's simply not how it works.
Spaceship in the Yard
QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 18 2007, 08:22 AM) *

I'm telling you that won't happen because that's simply not how it works.

Please, I'm not that thick enough to not know that. dry.gif I was just interested in what other people think when they see the statistics: was the song appreciated because of the Veronicas or because of the improvements the Vines made on it? That's all. But I still hope the new album comes out soon. laugh.gif
Brooklyn Girl
It would be great if it's released as a single. smile.gif
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Sep 18 2007, 03:37 PM) *

It would be great if it's released as a single. smile.gif


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The Vines turn to pop

7 September 2007

The Vines


Sydney band The Vines will turn to a pop song for their new single.

The band will tour Brisbane pop duo The Veronicas’ debut single 4Eva.

The cover will be released as part of the upcoming album, No Man's Woman (A Tribute to Women in Voice).

Commenting on the cover, The Veronicas' Lisa and Jess Origliasso said: "We're so stoked."

"We heard it this morning. I love all the harmonies (Craig Nicholls) does. They've so completely made it their own but they've kinda stayed true to the foundation of the song. They've definitely put their edge to it," Lisa said.

The compilation album, which features Australian male artists interpreting songs made famous by female singers, will be released on October 20th through Dew Process/UMA.

Source: http://www.elevenmagazine.com.au/content/n.../the_vines.html

Does Eleven magazine know more than we do or is all just speculation?
Brooklyn Girl
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Sep 18 2007, 08:19 AM) *

Source: http://www.elevenmagazine.com.au/content/n.../the_vines.html

Does Eleven magazine know more than we do or is all just speculation?

Not sure. If it is to be released as a single apart from the album release, a date would have helped. rolleyes.gif
tyler
QUOTE(Spaceship in the Yard @ Sep 18 2007, 11:54 AM) *

Please, I'm not that thick enough to not know that. dry.gif I was just interested in what other people think when they see the statistics: was the song appreciated because of the Veronicas or because of the improvements the Vines made on it? That's all. But I still hope the new album comes out soon. laugh.gif


I think most of those plays will have come from us listening to them repetitively, don't you think? not necessarily from the myspace surfing public. Vines fans care about their band more than anyone else!
marilyn_monroe
I really like what they did with that song! Craig's harmonies on the chorus sound great and really make the song nice to listen to.
SimplyDi-Vine
regardless if i do or do not like the song il still buy the cd biggrin.gif

mia
I think it will be a single, I hope so anyway, because I wont buy the CD but I would by that single biggrin.gif
And I think it could do really well
vinningdays
i like it!!! can't wait for the new album biggrin.gif
Jamola
does it really matter where she got it?
angela


QUOTE(tyler @ Sep 18 2007, 01:25 PM) *

I think most of those plays will have come from us listening to them repetitively, don't you think? not necessarily from the myspace surfing public. Vines fans care about their band more than anyone else!

well, maybe, actually you're probably right. But ya never know... I'm sure a lot of other people, other then the vines fans listened to it too..and yea the vines fans are all pretty awesome happy.gif
Jamola
QUOTE(autumn_ang @ Sep 20 2007, 06:38 AM) *

thankyouu

the song is awesome by the way


You reckon its better than the original?

I think they definitely made it their own.
angela
QUOTE(Cheyenne Greenleaf @ Sep 19 2007, 04:47 PM) *

You reckon its better than the original?

I think they definitely made it their own.

yeah.. i think it's wayyyy better then the original and really like what they did with it ...the lyrics aren't so great though.. but it's nice hearing new stuff from the vines again.
SaraGriffiths
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nEW SONG... Amazing i love it. smile.gif icon12.gif icon12.gif icon12.gif icon12.gif
MisplacedKeys
I guess this belongs in this thread. I'm only posting the bit about The Vines, the whole article is available here:
http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=3074

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And another first – The Vines have possibly become the first band ever to cover a Veronicas song. "Possibly", he agrees. "That one really came as a surprise to us. I was talking to their management and they came back and said Craig (Nichols) and the band are huge fans of The Veronicas and have a lot of respect for them. We thought it would be interesting to hear. I didn't even know the original. It just sounded like a great new Vines song to me".


So I guess it's official then. mellow.gif The Vines actually like The Veronicas. And what's worse, they aren't afraid to admit it. Whhhy? sad.gif *siiiiiiigh*
And they misspelt 'Nicholls'. rolleyes.gif
evie dee
^Bastards for misspelling Nicholls! It's N-I-C-H-O-L-L-S!
Sexhair
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Oct 11 2007, 10:21 AM) *

I guess this belongs in this thread. I'm only posting the bit about The Vines, the whole article is available here:
http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=3074
So I guess it's official then. mellow.gif The Vines actually like The Veronicas. And what's worse, they aren't afraid to admit it. Whhhy? sad.gif *siiiiiiigh*
And they misspelt 'Nicholls'. rolleyes.gif


um, ew?
Feedums
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Oct 11 2007, 03:21 PM) *

I guess this belongs in this thread. I'm only posting the bit about The Vines, the whole article is available here:
http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=3074
So I guess it's official then. mellow.gif The Vines actually like The Veronicas. And what's worse, they aren't afraid to admit it. Whhhy? sad.gif *siiiiiiigh*
And they misspelt 'Nicholls'. rolleyes.gif


I'm all for people who admit to liking horrible music, but this is pushing it a little.
thePotIntheGarden
QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Oct 11 2007, 11:21 AM) *

So I guess it's official then. mellow.gif The Vines actually like The Veronicas. And what's worse, they aren't afraid to admit it. Whhhy? sad.gif *siiiiiiigh*
And they misspelt 'Nicholls'. rolleyes.gif

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Maybe that article is exaggerating what the Vines actually said. Maybe somebody heard them say "I think the music accompanying their songs is catchy" and mistranslated it as "the Vines are huge fans."
...d'you think?
or no?
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No, it doesn't really matter sleep.gif
2gether_we_fall
lol, i dunno, but i wil say one thing, after hearing the vies cover i did download a couple of the veronicas songs, and i do kind alisten to them:P they're jsut catchy i spose, but yes i was among the millions to bag them out before hand . . . i do like bad music in general though
Maxwell Demon
Check it out:
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Spaceship in the Yard
QUOTE(Maxwell Demon @ Oct 13 2007, 09:58 AM) *

Check it out:
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Annnd they used the Vines as cover picture, MySpace knows they're best. laugh.gif
littlemissjoey
New Vines sounds = yahoo.gif

The Vines covering The Veronicas and admitting they like them = huh.gif

Now I am really bursting at the seams for the Ivy League show. w00t.gif
evie dee
QUOTE(Maxwell Demon @ Oct 12 2007, 09:58 PM) *

Check it out:
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SimplyDi-Vine
QUOTE(Feedums @ Oct 12 2007, 06:02 AM) *


I'm all for people who admit to liking horrible music, but this is pushing it a little.


I just hope they don't own the Cd's unsure.gif
and why do the other bands have such a better choice dry.gif

Angus Stone 'River' (Joni Mitchell)
Powderfinger 'Glorybox' (Portishead)
The Vines '4Eva' (The Veronicas)
Expatriate 'Missing' (Everything But The Girl)
Lior 'Landslide' (Fleetwood Mac)
Bob Evans 'Cars Wheels On A Gravel Road' (Lucinda Williams)
End of Fashion 'Hanging On The Telephone' (Blondie)
Dan Kelly 'Nothing Compares 2U' (Sinead O'Connor)
Whitley 'Hyperballad' (Bjork)
Josh Pyke 'Wuthering Heights (Kate Bush)
Paul Kelly 'To Bring You My Love' PJ Harvey
Gyroscope 'Cannonball' (The Breeders)
Grinspoon 'Boys In Town' (Divinyls)
Tex Perkins 'I Am Woman' (Helen Reddy)
wednesday
I love Joni Mitchell!!!!!

I don't think it's ashaming that the vines suposedly like the veronicas....sure i don't like them (the veronicas that is)...but i feel it could be a lot worst...say for example fergie.
SimplyDi-Vine
QUOTE(wednesday @ Oct 14 2007, 08:41 PM) *
I love Joni Mitchell!!!!!

I don't think it's ashaming that the vines suposedly like the veronicas....sure i don't like them (the veronicas that is)...but i feel it could be a lot worst...say for example fergie.


lol craigelicious laugh.gif

2gether_we_fall
i rekon out of all the artists they took the biggest risk by choosing something completely different and making it work, that took balls, and the fact that they pulled it off and its such an awesome song shows they made the best decision, out of all the covers on that album theirs stands out the most, its not a cover of a huge hit by some legendary frontwoman, its a cheesy pop song that they totally re-did to make something amazing out of . . . that said i still would have prefered they did the divinyls - i touch myself *sigh* i just want to hear craig sing those words tongue.gif
tyler
QUOTE(SimplyDi-Vine @ Oct 14 2007, 10:12 AM) *

I just hope they don't own the Cd's unsure.gif
and why do the other bands have such a better choice dry.gif




we talked about this before, I suggested that it might be because out of that list, you don't want to cover a song that it really well known- you're never going to beat the original or be able to do anything too drastic with it- unlike the less well known ones. I suspect the reason they chose this song is that its structured very simply, it's not that well known, and it's the song they felt they could make the most out of- that is supposing they were even given a choice.
dani_california
maybe its because they both start with a V.

lalalalala

edit: and please make the veronicas illegal, they play them at my work all the time. *twitches eye*
2gether_we_fall
i think someone said somewhere n some article that they chose it (i only remember this because of the controversy surrounding them actually CHOOSING a veronica's song) like i said, i used to dislike the veronicas, but this made me download some and they arent so bad, for what they are, i mean for cheesy teeny bopper crap, its at least catchy and harmless and not so different from the spice girls and all that other crap and they at least appear from what ive seen to be setting a desent example as rolemodels to young kids . . long story short, . . the end?
Maxwell Demon
I think you guys are overanalyzing all of this haha. Who cares if they like the Veronicas. People like what they like. I like some pop. The Veronicas aren't bad. They're not something I would listen to a whole lot, but I don't see why people would be disgusted that the guys like them. They're pretty girls who make fun music.
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(Maxwell Demon @ Oct 14 2007, 09:11 PM) *

Who cares if they like the Veronicas.

I doooooooooo, cuz dey shuld lyk wut I lykkk!!!!!11! *tantrum*

Seriously though, The Veronicas are baaaad. They're not even artists, they're just performers of the same substandard writers that write the majority of songs for pop/rock princesses these days. *cough*Dr.Luke*cough*
**blossy**
i like what they did smile.gif
altho its a veronicas song.
pure_wonderment
They did a great job! when the Veronicas sing it, I find it hard to listen to the song coz their high-pitched voices tend to distract me from the song itself. But The Vines, make it sound.... cute and nice smile.gif, more mellow and less ..screechy (if i may say without offending someone out there)
MisplacedKeys
^^
I agree, they made an amazing job, no question about it. hail.gif It almost seems a completely different song, and I just love every bit of the song. I never thought that instruments and the vocals alone could change the song this much, but The Vines did it. wub.gif
MisplacedKeys
Just a blog mention, with 4eva mp3 file available to download: http://openyoureyestomusic.blogspot.com/20...mans-woman.html
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Saturday, October 20, 2007
No Man's Woman

I’m not sure if a CD that has me singing The Veronicas’ songs is good thing. It may be testimony to the quality of this particular album, but it certainly doesn’t do much for my credibility. For those who aren’t aware of what this album is, it’s basically Australian men covering female artists. All the artists, on both sides of equation, are quite high profile and it’s pretty impressive for Dew Process to have assembled such a line up and made this CD happen. I must admit, I wasn’t very optimistic going into this CD. To me it seemed like a bit of gimmick; an intriguing gimmick, but not much more that. However, after listening through it a number of times, I’ve actually found myself impressed on a number of fronts. For starters, most of the songs being covered (and their respective artists) are ones that I’m not particularly familiar with. So in that sense, I’ve found it enjoyable purely on the basis of it being a nice mix of music. But it actually offers much more than that. It’s great to hear some of my favourite Australian artists, one after another, applying their signature sounds to these songs. Even artists I’m not particularly fond of, such as End of Fashion and Gyroscope have managed to impress me. In fact, there’s only really one track that I don’t thoroughly enjoy. This album provides a great snapshot of Australia’s varied music scene and does so whilst celebrating some music's most prolific female artists. It certainly is much more than just a gimmick.

Tracklist
1. Angus Stone – River (Joni Mitchell)
2. Powderfinger – Glorybox (Portishead)
3. The Vines – 4Eva (The Veronicas)
4. Expatriate – Missing (Everything But The Girl)
5. Lior – Landslide (Fleetwood Mac)
6. Bob Evans – Cars Wheels On A Gravel Road (Lucinda Williams)
7. End Of Fashion – Hanging On The Telephone (Blondie)
8. Dan Kelly – Nothing Compares To You (Sinead O'connor)
9. Whitely – Hyperballad (Bjork)
10. Josh Pyke – Wuthering Heights (Kate Bush)
11. Paul Kelly – To Bring You My Love (Pj Harvey)
12. Gyropscope – Cannonball (The Breeders)
13. Grinspoon – Boys In Town (Divinyls)
14. Tex Perkins – I Am Woman (Helen Reddy)

The CD is out now and comes with a bonus disc containing nine of the tracks by their original artists. You can also catch some of the artists performing these songs as part of the Legs 11 concert. Click here for details

Released: 20/10/07 | Myspace
2gether_we_fall
i saw the ad for this on tv tonight, the vines cver is playing at teh very start, and id say it plays for most of the ad tongue.gif they even get a big mention in the ad, like they put on the screen artists & who they are covering, and well yeah, the vines are one of the first to get mentioned, and only 4 or 5 do so yay!!!!
their cover must have been the best to get that much air time tongue.gif
anyways, aussies look out for it!!!
pandacheese
I have heared the new track,I'm very excited to hear craig's voice! I have heared the track 7 times~
MisplacedKeys
QUOTE(2gether_we_fall @ Oct 25 2007, 03:49 PM) *

their cover must have been the best to get that much air time tongue.gif

Well, D'OH! cool.gif

So there's been an ad for it? Nice, the more people hear about it, the better. smile.gif Too bad the CD isn't available in Europe, though. Argh, I need a credit card. dry.gif
MisplacedKeys
Haha, I did a bit of googling and I thought this was an interesting read:
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Oct 16, 2007
The Vines cover The Veronicas as part of a tribute to female artists

Occasional rock outfit The Vines have covered the track 4EVA by talentless pop darlings The Veronicas as part of a new compilation album called No Man's Woman.

The album features several male artists, such as Josh Pyke, Expatriate, Paul Kelly, Bob Evans and Powderfinger, covering classic female tracks by Bjork, PJ Harvey, Sinead O'Connor, Portishead and .. the Australian pop twinz.

Suprisingly, The Vines' spaced-out take on the pop-shit-tastic track is fairly entertaining - somewhat reminiscent of a few years back when they made Outkast's Miss Jackson sound like a drugged-out lullaby.

Anyways, judge for yourself...

No Man's Woman is in stores from this Saturday, October 20.

http://polaroidsofandroids.com/news/398/th...cas_as_part_of/

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Tribute albums generally break down into two categories: covers that tell you something about the subject and covers that tell you something about the performer. No Man's Woman, a collection of Australian male voices interpreting songs made famous by women, is no different. In terms of self-reflection, Powderfinger manage to find the epic in Portishead's Glory Box, the Vines reduce the Veronicas' 4Ever into a droning ganja groove, and Josh Pyke manages to remove the magic from Kate Bush's Wuthering Heights. So far, so so. But there are some genuine reinventions. Dan Kelly adds years, and what sounds like a ukulele, to Sinead O'Connor's Nothing Compares 2 U, giving it a tropical innocence far removed from the original's pain, while the up-and-coming Whitley strips back Bjork's Hyperballad, making it a solemn study of everyday hope and despair. It's noticeable that few of those involved have opted to augment their choice - it's either dutiful or reduced for introspection. Existing outside such concerns is the closing track, where Tex Perkins struts and snarls through a garage jam of Helen Reddy's I Am Woman. It's beyond classification and thankfully so.

"droning ganja groove" ??? mellow.gif
http://www.theage.com.au/news/cd-reviews/n...2941220403.html
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Tex Perkins sings “I am Woman” on No Man’s Woman
[...]blah blah blah[...]
Other worthy efforts include Bob Evans’s interpretation of Lucinda Williams’s “Car Wheels on a Gravel Road” and The Vines doing “4Ever” by The Veronicas.

However, if The Vines are being sarcastic when they proclaim on the CD cover; “We think this is a great song and The Veronicas make great albums. We’re lucky to have them”, they’re mocking the reason for No Man’s Woman existence.
[...]blah blah blah[...]

Whole article here: http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/21/no-mans-woman/

From 12majorchords:
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The Vines Do The Veronicas 25Sep07


So far, 2007 has been a relatively quiet year for Sydney rockers, The Vines. Besides a slot on last summer’s Big Day Out circuit and an appearance at the Great Escape festival earlier in the year, the normally loud lads have hardly made a peep - but all of that is soon to change.

Vines-fever officially will begin-again on October 20, with the release of the upcoming compilation album No Man’s Woman - A Tribute To Women In Voice. An album of songs performed by Australian male vocalists, originally made famous by women, across the history of music - or so the press release would have me think - The Vines will offer up their version of The Veronicas’ shitfest “4ever”, alongside the likes of Tex Perkins, Whitley and Paul Kelly.

The band will then play as part of Ivy League’s 10th Birthday celebrations at the Metro Theatre on November 2nd, before wrapping up work on their next untitled album, which the little internet bird keeps telling me will be released “before the end of the year”.

The Vines - 4ever.mp3 (Veronicas Cover)

http://www.twelvemajorchords.com/?p=679

A bit taken from Zeon's music blog:
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Surprise ! The Vines, of all bands, has done a cover of The Veronicas' hit '4Ever', for a compilation released in Australia called No Man's Woman, in which male artists cover women's songs. And it is very good, a bit psychedelic, but the harmonies are sweet. By the way, The Veronicas' new single 'Hook Me Up' is one electro corker. Nice change in the twins' direction...

Whole thing here: http://zeonmusic.blogspot.com/2007/10/bits-and-bobs.html

And, if anyone's interested what The Veronicas' fans have to say about the cover, go here.
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