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wonkytooth
'Vision Valley' is set to be the lead review in the new issue of Australian Rolling Stone, featuring John Lydon/Johnny Rotten on the cover (May 2006). The magazine also includes a Vines interview with Craig, Andy Kelly and Wayne Connelly. Remember how Wayne joked that Craig liked to scare people by jumping out at them from behind doors? Well, he'll elaborate and share some other Craig anecdotes in the feature. "Asperger's Rock" will also make a reappearance - seems Craig may have been behind that afterall. tongue.gif

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My money is on Allie, but whichever of you aussies gets your mitts on this baby first, do you mind scanning and posting for the rest of us?

*thanks to the lovely J for the above info. hug.gif
Cigarettes and Song
oh cool thanks for sharing! I'll go buy that asap. Unfortunately I am deprived of a scanner sad.gif sorry

aww that jumping out and scaring ppl is soooo cute I can just picture it. laugh.gif
marilyn_monroe
laugh.gif it was craig afterall with the Aperger's Rock thing laugh.gif ...I bet the management was like...Oh geez and asked them to take it out even though Craig said it rolleyes.gif

I can't wait to get it!!! Is it out now, do you mean?
wonkytooth
well, rolling stone here didn't exactly run the quote in context did they? rolleyes.gif when this article was read to me, it was obvious craig was taking the piss. wink.gif

i'm not sure when RS comes out in oz - i'ts monthly, and j said it'd be out next week, but i figured you guys could be on the lookout. someone has already posted the issue on ebay. blink.gif
shellz
woohoo. looking forward to geting that one! biggrin.gif
marilyn_monroe
I got it biggrin.gif
I don't have a scanner though sad.gif

But what sucks about the review is that they maintain that Craig has major songwriting talent, but he has "given up." blink.gif . At the end, they wrote this: "Whether Nicholls can rediscover his muse is a moot point, as Vision Valley contains every bit of magic he has in his possesion - just not pieced together the way it sound be. He hasn't lost his talent. He just doesn't care to control it anymore."

well, that makes absolutely no sense to me laugh.gif ...I'm not even taking my opinion into account, I just don't see what they're getting at.

Really shit that they gave it 2 1/2 stars. 3 would have been ok even though it deserves more than that. it seems that the average rating they gave albums in here was about 3. and the lowest was 2.
Lunastar1979
Tsss, effin' RS! You know, I think that magazine is complete shit anyway mad.gif
Vine ♠ Child
I don't like reading reviews unless they're good reviews. ..I'm biased that way. rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif
annie
ah its next months issue? I'll make sure I save a $10 voucher so's I can buy it =]

I wonder if any magazine retailers are still selling the copy of Rolling Stone with The Vines on the cover..hmmm. Time to go magazine hunting I think.

QUOTE(marilyn_monroe @ Apr 5 2006, 05:50 PM) *

I got it biggrin.gif
I don't have a scanner though sad.gif

But what sucks about the review is that they maintain that Craig has major songwriting talent, but he has "given up." blink.gif . At the end, they wrote this: "Whether Nicholls can rediscover his muse is a moot point, as Vision Valley contains every bit of magic he has in his possesion - just not pieced together the way it sound be. He hasn't lost his talent. He just doesn't care to control it anymore."

well, that makes absolutely no sense to me laugh.gif ...I'm not even taking my opinion into account, I just don't see what they're getting at.

Really shit that they gave it 2 1/2 stars. 3 would have been ok even though it deserves more than that. it seems that the average rating they gave albums in here was about 3. and the lowest was 2.


As long as they have some good pictures for me to rip out I dont care too much laugh.gif
allie9609
I'll buy it tomorrow happy.gif . I'll put scans up as well unless someone beats me to it wink.gif . Stupid reviewer - obviously has no idea what he's talking about dry.gif . If it weren't for that other article I wouldn't even get that mag. Maddie - there weren't any new pics were there? ohmy.gif I'm sure you would have mentioned it if there were, but a girl needs to double check these things tongue.gif .
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(allie9609 @ Apr 5 2006, 12:28 AM) *

Maddie - there weren't any new pics were there? ohmy.gif I'm sure you would have mentioned it if there were, but a girl needs to double check these things tongue.gif .

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I know what you mean. We need a triple confirmation. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif
annie
quadruple that.
marilyn_monroe
Nope, no new pictures. But there's this weird graphic like thing they made. I don't know how to describe it...it's kinda a drawing biggrin.gif
wonkytooth
QUOTE(marilyn_monroe @ Apr 5 2006, 01:50 AM) *

I got it biggrin.gif
I don't have a scanner though sad.gif


yay, it is out!! i'm so glad you were able to get it, maddie!! biggrin.gif don't sweat the scanner, allie or someone will help with that end.

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But what sucks about the review is that they maintain that Craig has major songwriting talent, but he has "given up." blink.gif . At the end, they wrote this: "Whether Nicholls can rediscover his muse is a moot point, as Vision Valley contains every bit of magic he has in his possesion - just not pieced together the way it sound be. He hasn't lost his talent. He just doesn't care to control it anymore."


j warned me about the rating, and read me the review over the phone. she's not even a vines fan and said the review was lame. the guy cops to craig's talent thru-out the review, but it's like he was never going to give them a high score. meh, rolling stone reviews are typically worthless anyway unless it's some long-time staff writer like david fricke or maybe rob sheffield whose reviews carry some weight.

the interview is the reason to pick up a copy. wink.gif
marilyn_monroe
I know, it was like he was making up reasons to give them a low score rolleyes.gif pathetic!
SimplyDi-Vine
So the mag is out now or has it just came out or what? I went to the store and i dont thing i sore that on the cover of the Rolling Stones.
arid
The article was written by Andrew Weaver. He used to do to update the aussie news for the vines back in the highly evolved days. Obviously his opinion has changed over time and in the end it is his opinion and you have to respect that. Dont really agree with his review here, but he his still one of my fave critics. There are a lot of shit ones around that dont even comment on the music i.e. drum media's review of 'dont listen to the radio''. That dude made a critique of a newspaper article about them, instead of the actual single they were supposed to be reviewing-shithouse...It's like that every week, gives me the shits.
SimplyDi-Vine
And they still have jobs... dry.gif
Helter Skelter
QUOTE(wonkytooth @ Apr 5 2006, 06:36 AM) *

yay, it is out!! i'm so glad you were able to get it, maddie!! biggrin.gif don't sweat the scanner, allie or someone will help with that end.
j warned me about the rating, and read me the review over the phone. she's not even a vines fan and said the review was lame. the guy cops to craig's talent thru-out the review, but it's like he was never going to give them a high score. meh, rolling stone reviews are typically worthless anyway unless it's some long-time staff writer like david fricke or maybe rob sheffield whose reviews carry some weight.

the interview is the reason to pick up a copy. wink.gif



but we cant get it in the US, i wish Rolling Stone was international instead of there being different versions
Lunastar1979
So who's gonna be a doll and scan that mutha for us? confused0006.gif
wonkytooth
ali is doing it tomorrow....or today...depending on where you are in the world. biggrin.gif
Howzat69
Rolling Stone has a tiny readership on Oz, most of the major papers have given good reviews and thats much more important.
mia
im glad there is an interview in there as well, i gess it worth getting then, i hate when there is only one little thing in a mag that you wont. is there no pics or no new pics in it?

QUOTE(wonkytooth @ Apr 5 2006, 12:57 PM) *

"Asperger's Rock" will also make a reappearance - seems Craig may have been behind that afterall. tongue.gif

whats that about unsure.gif
allie9609
I've only got one more lecture left today then I'll be able to buy the mag and scan it happy.gif . It should be up in about 2 hours...
the_likely_lad
The Hit section in the Herald Sun gave it 2 stars sad.gif
tienah
QUOTE(mia @ Apr 5 2006, 11:26 PM) *

whats that about unsure.gif

See this.

It's been two hours... smile.gif
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(tienah @ Apr 5 2006, 11:26 PM) *

It's been two hours... smile.gif

laugh.gif ..yeah, we're counting. wink.gif
allie9609
laugh.gif Sorry unsure.gif Got held up wink.gif .
Here's the article - click for a bigger picture:
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And the 2 pages of the review - again, click for bigger versions wink.gif
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I like the graphic they used for the review... but that's about where it ends. That reviewer doesn't seem to know what he's talking about dry.gif .
Vine ♠ Child
Ooooh!!! Thanks for that allie. biggrin.gif


Yeah, the reviewer knows nada. dry.gif

So craig joked with them about the Asperger Rock thing? laugh.gif
Lunastar1979
LOL I lurve that article! Mostly cuz of Craig scarin' people...funny story...my brother tried that on me once...I walked in the house (where I thought no one was home) and all the lights were off...as I walked down the hall and turned the corner...he jumped out and I screamed right as I punched him as hard as I could in the face laugh.gif he fell to the ground and got pretty pissed, but I still say it's his fault. biggrin.gif
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Lunastar1979 @ Apr 6 2006, 12:22 AM) *

LOL I lurve that article! Mostly cuz of Craig scarin' people...funny story...my brother tried that on me once...I walked in the house (where I thought no one was home) and all the lights were off...as I walked down the hall and turned the corner...he jumped out and I screamed right as I punched him as hard as I could in the face laugh.gif he fell to the ground and got pretty pissed, but I still say it's his fault. biggrin.gif

Haha!! laugh.gif

And ooh! Craig likes Jim Carrey! biggrin.gif wub.gif
tienah
I'm glad no one told Craig that the Vines were "history." smile.gif

I'm also glad to see Craig's sense of humour again. It's been worryingly absent from recent interviews. Thanks for posting it.

EDIT: "That's part of what made debut set Highly Evolved a thrill - Nicholls was totally devoted to his music." Well, yeah. I mean, now he's all about the booze, drugs, and groupies. His passion for his music is totally dead. rolleyes.gif
marilyn_monroe
QUOTE(rough_diamond @ Apr 6 2006, 03:54 PM) *

The Hit section in the Herald Sun gave it 2 stars sad.gif



Oh that is sooooooo scorned dry.gif . They will never give up that grudge.

And as for this review in Oz RS, as Ali said, this review doesn't even make sense. I mean, I can't follow what the heck he's trying to say. Like he's making up excuses to give them a low score.

Reviews have been really mixed. But I have yet to see anyone who said it was a truely bad album or anything. But I don't see how anyone could really say that (oh I forgot pitchfork but I don't think they count). But it really is totally a matter of what people like. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a record/movie get a really high rating and I think it's just awful. Like it's just hyped and that's all.
Rusty
QUOTE(allie9609 @ Apr 6 2006, 07:11 AM) *

laugh.gif Sorry unsure.gif Got held up wink.gif .
Here's the article - click for a bigger picture:
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And the 2 pages of the review - again, click for bigger versions wink.gif
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I like the graphic they used for the review... but that's about where it ends. That reviewer doesn't seem to know what he's talking about dry.gif .

Thanks for that, Allie! biggrin.gif

But...they gave only 2 and a half stars for VV? mellow.gif
wonkytooth
thanks for those scans, als. hug.gif

mad.gif rolleyes.gif <-- my faces while reading that review. the reviewer may have been a fan in the past and know craig somewhat, but does he know craig enough to make sweeping judgments about who craig is now and what he's capable of producing in the future? huh.gif

laugh.gif wub.gif <-- my faces while reading that article. the hearts are as much for andy and wayne's kind remarks towards craig as the return of the band. happy.gif
Cigarettes and Song
ahhh cool thanks. That review was weird i'm not sure what he was getting at. The article was great but!
marilyn_monroe
Oh wow, so I'm not the only person who wasn't following this reviewer. How the hell would he know if Craig has "given up" or not? notallthere.gif
Maxwell Demon
laugh.gif
that was the best article yet

I don't know what crawled up that reviewers ass though
maybe if he didn't spend so much time trying to psychoanalyze Craig he would get the point of the music
Feedums
Hahaha, the Asperger Rock thing. I want to marry Craig, lyk srsly.
Howzat69
Ive spent a ridiculous amount of time going through reviews. The positive far outweigh the negative, importantly most larger publications have really liked it. The UK for example, NME, Q, SPIN, Observer etc all positive.


Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Feedums @ Apr 6 2006, 08:03 AM) *

Hahaha, the Asperger Rock thing. I want to marry Craig, lyk srsly.

I'm just hoping he really DID say it, and it wasnt just them making it up as an excuse to make fun of him. dry.gif
Ava Adore
sad.gif the link doesnt work for me to look at it sad.gif
wonkytooth
QUOTE(Ava Adore @ Apr 8 2006, 03:22 AM) *

sad.gif the link doesnt work for me to look at it sad.gif


ohmy.gif

the article disappeared off imageshack. sad.gif

i'll pm allie and let her know so she can reupload it.
allie9609
I've reuploaded those scans since they stopped working wink.gif . That's never happened with imageshack before... weird blink.gif . Anyhoo...
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3416/rsva...thevines9wk.jpg
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2470/rsvvreviewpage12sf.jpg
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2209/rs...iewpage22be.jpg
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(allie9609 @ Apr 8 2006, 09:29 PM) *

Great scans! this one here of them sitting in a feild? I was watching a Beatles video today on YouTube, and it almost shows the same exact scene. I wonder if they got the idea from that. cool.gif
wonkytooth
thanks, allie! i'm saving them this time. wink.gif
green_scissors
^ me too, just nearly had a cardiac arrest when the other link wouldn't open.
Helter Skelter
what edition of Q had them in it?

QUOTE(Vinechild @ Apr 9 2006, 12:40 AM) *

Great scans! this one here of them sitting in a feild? I was watching a Beatles video today on YouTube, and it almost shows the same exact scene. I wonder if they got the idea from that. cool.gif



i have a beatles shirt with that picture you're talking about....and they have beards right?
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(GuitarAndPot @ Apr 12 2006, 02:02 PM) *

i have a beatles shirt with that picture you're talking about....and they have beards right?

I think so, i cant remember now, but most likely, cause it was a later beatles video, as opposed to their early days.
Oh and cool! smile.gif I LOVE the beatles! wub.gif
Helter Skelter
let me see if i can scan the shirt


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