how though? and for the record, i'm not being sarcastic. andy kent's been playing bass twice as long as patrick, so if the bass seems to mellow or nondescript could that be something to do with the mixing of the album? most vines songs simply aren't bass-heavy or groove oriented so i guess i don't get how having a different bassist would matter so much.

Each bass player has their own style usually, and, Pat had a unique style. Andy, does not carry this style off on Vision Valley and I personally think that the songs lack without Pat's basslines.

Each bass player has their own style usually, and, Pat had a unique style. Andy, does not carry this style off on Vision Valley and I personally think that the songs lack without Pat's basslines.

Funny, cause i can't even tell the difference.

That's because you're a moron..

I thought that Andy Kent did a very good job of playing in his own style while still including some Pat style bass playing.

At least some people appreciated Patrick *cough* not Jen *cough*