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Maxwell Demon
I've just been reading some crazy shit you guys

apparently McDonalds are being sued for denying that their fries have glutens in em, when they actually do

what does this have to do with anything Vines related?
50% of the population who have an autism spectrum disorder do not have the ability to completely break down gluten
instead they break them down only to a certain unbroken peptide chain which gets in the blood stream
and that specific peptide chain is an opiate (opiates are those lovely drugs that heroin is made up of)
so autistic people who have this problem with glutens become highly addicted to food with glutens in them (ex. McDonalds french fries)

gluten comes from wheat and is found in a lot of food, especially processed food

anyhoo
I just emailed Andy with my finds

don't know if its had any effect on Craig or not but I thought they'd be interested in it over there
Thomhatesmusic
That's really interesting and weird.
Maxwell Demon
yeah
I'm not trying to start any rumors that Craig has this problem
I don't know if hes been checked for it or not

but its odd how it kind of adds up
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 7 2006, 09:09 AM)
yeah
I'm not trying to start any rumors that Craig has this problem
I don't know if hes been checked for it or not

but its odd how it kind of adds up
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Yeah, could very well be true. smile.gif Remember i had posted in another thread that they've taken studies, and found that when people with Autistic/AS disorders...stop eating wheat and sugar, (and glutens)...that their symptoms improve drastically. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
Maxwell Demon
oh I didn't read that
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but I knew about the gluten problem from a friend of mine
Vine ♠ Child
I think craig should cut out all wheat, sugar and glutens and stuff. I bet it would work wonders. smile.gif
Lunastar1979
That's crazy. I dont like them just cuz they're made in the oil with the meat. Lol, I'm such a twat vegetarian. blush.gif
Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(Vinechild @ Mar 7 2006, 12:17 PM)
I think craig should cut out all wheat, sugar and glutens and stuff. I bet it would work wonders.  smile.gif
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it probably would

only problem is is that if he has this problem he didn't catch it early
its a real physical addiction to the stuff

and no one can say opiates are easy to quit
I think he should try though
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 7 2006, 09:19 AM)
it probably would

only problem is is that if he has this problem he didn't catch it early
its a real physical addiction to the stuff

and no one can say opiates are easy to quit
I think he should try though
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I think he should too. Maybe like gradually. Doesnt have to do it all at once, but just take baby steps untill he rids himself of ALL glutens..ect...
He'll be thankfull in the longrun. smile.gif A happy healthy Craig is what we want. biggrin.gif
Maxwell Demon
exactly
kaleidoscope_eyes
That is weird. I worked at McDonalds for six months. unsure.gif
is she weird
What is classed as an autism spectrum disorder??
wonkytooth
i didn't know any of this lizzy, and it is interesting. if not scary. mellow.gif

at the same time, it stands to reason that would be doing things to alter craig's diet. boy lived on total junk food pre-diagnosis, and that's not healthy for anyone!, but now that the doctors and craig know what they're dealing with, any measures that make his life better are worth taking. smile.gif

Rusty

QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 7 2006, 05:51 PM)
I've just been reading some crazy shit you guys

apparently McDonalds are being sued for denying that their fries have glutens in em, when they actually do

what does this have to do with anything Vines related?
50% of the population who have an autism spectrum disorder do not have the ability to completely break down gluten
instead they break them down only to a certain unbroken peptide chain which gets in the blood stream
and that specific peptide chain is an opiate (opiates are those lovely drugs that heroin is made up of)
so autistic people who have this problem with glutens become highly addicted to food with glutens in them (ex. McDonalds french fries)

gluten comes from wheat and is found in a lot of food, especially processed food

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Whoa... blink.gif


Anyway, I wish people didn't make fun of him in this fashion
It's just MEAN mad.gif

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Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(is she weird @ Mar 7 2006, 12:34 PM)
What is classed as an autism spectrum disorder??
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there are a ton of different symptoms for autism so autism is just known as the autism spectrum because there are a handful of other disorders other than just "autism" (including Asperger's) that fall into the same spectrum and many individuals with autism have very differing symptoms

its a very broad disorder
is she weird
QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 8 2006, 03:38 AM)
there are a ton of different symptoms for autism so autism is just known as the autism spectrum because there are a handful of other disorders other than just "autism" (including Asperger's) that fall into the same spectrum and many individuals with autism have very differing symptoms

its a very broad disorder
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I heard ADD is in there is that true??? If so tantrum2.gif FUCK Mc donalds those lying scummy cunts and that filthy shit they call food ......seriously the shit they can pass off as food these days is fucking scary!
Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(is she weird @ Mar 7 2006, 12:43 PM)
I heard ADD is in there is that true???
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its up for dispute actually
some people are trying to get it classified as an autism spectrum disorder
Lunastar1979
Lol, what I wanna know is why do their chicken nuggets look like tiny little boots?
wonkytooth
no, ADD is *not* in the autism spectrum.
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(is she weird @ Mar 7 2006, 09:43 AM)
FUCK Mc donalds those lying scummy cunts and that filthy shit they call food ......seriously the shit they can pass off as food these days is fucking scary!
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I totally agree! I have a friend who knows a famous nutritional expert from europe, and what she found out about mcdonlds would make your stomach literally do summersaults. laugh.gif mellow.gif She wouldnt eat it if you paid her! ohmy.gif mellow.gif
Lunastar1979
Oooh, you should share that info. I watched that one movie um...whatever it was called...the documentary on McDonald's where that guy gained weight, his penis was goin' all crazy on him, etc.

Oooh, what if Craig used to have those e.d. problems!
Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(wonkytooth @ Mar 7 2006, 12:46 PM)
no, ADD is *not* in the autism spectrum.
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I don't think it should be

but they might add it one of these days because of so many people pushing for it to be classified as an ASD
Brooklyn Girl
I don't think he's eating McDonald's anymore. If he's getting medical attention, no doubt a change in diet was probably already mentioned. Hence his quote on "eating better."
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Mar 7 2006, 09:54 AM)
I don't think he's eating McDonald's anymore. If he's getting medical attention, no doubt a change in diet was probably already mentioned. Hence his quote on "eating better."
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Yes, but its not enough just to "eat better"..and to cut out McDonalds. The idea is to cut out GLUTENS all together. And all kinds of foods have glutens in them, not just McDonalds. mellow.gif
wonkytooth
QUOTE(Lunastar1979 @ Mar 7 2006, 12:49 PM)
Oooh, you should share that info. I watched that one movie um...whatever it was called...the documentary on McDonald's where that guy gained weight, his penis was goin' all crazy on him, etc.
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'supersize me' wink.gif


QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 7 2006, 12:50 PM)
but they might add it one of these days because of so many people pushing for it to be classified as an ASD
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i'm past the labels and what group/subgroup things belong to. what's important is not what you call a disorder or how it's classified, but how you treat or deal with a disorder so that person can function to their potential.

Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(wonkytooth @ Mar 7 2006, 01:01 PM)
'supersize me'  wink.gif
i'm past the labels and what group/subgroup things belong to. what's important is not what you call a disorder or how it's classified, but how you treat or deal with a disorder so that person can function to their potential.
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I think its kind of important for things to be classified right though
because if ADD ends up being officially classified as an ASD then doctors will start taking an approach to it like they would for autism
and if its not really an ASD then that would be shit for people who have ADD
Brooklyn Girl
QUOTE(Vinechild @ Mar 7 2006, 12:58 PM)
Yes, but its not enough just to "eat better"..and to cut out McDonalds. The idea is to cut out GLUTENS all together.  And all kinds of foods have glutens in them, not just McDonalds.  mellow.gif
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Everytime you say glutens I think of gluttony. How appropriate when it comes to McDonald's, huh? laugh.gif

So no carbs then (wheat, barley and rye). Yeah but again, I'm sure his doctor has mentioned that (if they're experts in AS).
Maxwell Demon
well they said he's "improved" his diet

we don't know how much he's improved it or whether or not he's toally cut out McDonalds and glutens
I don't think saying that he's improved his diet is really saying much looking at what his diet was like before

going from fast food every day to fast food once a week is a major improvement
but if he has a problem with glutens he'd have to completely change the way he eats
Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Mar 7 2006, 01:09 PM)
Everytime you say glutens I think of gluttony. How appropriate when it comes to McDonald's, huh?  laugh.gif

So no carbs then (wheat, barley and rye). Yeah but again, I'm sure his doctor has mentioned that (if they're experts in AS).

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he can have carbs
like potatoes and rice mainly

and glutens show up in other things like soy sauce, licorice, processed food, and some dairy
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 7 2006, 10:13 AM)
he can have carbs
like potatoes and rice mainly

Actually...those are really bad for you. Rice and potatoes turn directly into sugar. (glutens)



QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 7 2006, 10:11 AM)
well they said he's "improved" his diet

we don't know how much he's improved it or whether or not he's toally cut out McDonalds and glutens
I don't think saying that he's improved his diet is really saying much looking at what his diet was like before

going from fast food every day to fast food once a week is a major improvement
but if he has a problem with glutens he'd have to completely change the way he eats
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EXACTLY!



QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Mar 7 2006, 10:09 AM)


So no carbs then (wheat, barley and rye). Yeah but again, I'm sure his doctor has mentioned that (if they're experts in AS).

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Not necessarily. It may be new findings on the subject.
Lunastar1979
Haha, I guess we'll find out if they knew if/when Andy let's Lizzy know.
Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(Vinechild @ Mar 7 2006, 01:17 PM)
Actually...those are really bad for you. Rice and potatoes turn directly into sugar. (glutens)
EXACTLY!
Not necessarily. It may be new findngs on the subject.
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its the wheat gluten that autism people have a problem digesting though
not the sugar gluten
er..I mean the simple sugar you get from other carbs
the unbroken peptides they get from that sugar isn't toxic or addictive to them
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 7 2006, 10:21 AM)
its the wheat gluten that autism people have a problem digesting though
not the sugar gluten
the unbroken peptides they get from sugar isn't toxic or addictive to them
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Okay, perhaps....but even still... Sugar gluten is still bad for ANYBODY. tongue.gif
I dont eat any potatoes or rice anymore...nor do i eat wheat gluten. Its all banned from my life!
Maxwell Demon
laugh.gif
yeah you're right about that

the fact is complex sugars aren't the healthiest things in the world
but I still think everyone needs some of them
the protein from carbs are good for your heart and give you energy
is she weird
QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 8 2006, 04:05 AM)
I think its kind of important for things to be classified right though
because if ADD ends up being officially classified as an ASD then doctors will start taking an approach to it like they would for autism
and if its not really an ASD then that would be shit for people who have ADD
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Yeah poor me and my ADD crying.gif People seem to think it means I'm stupid but I'm not I am intelligent and have a above average IQ so slap.gif to people who think they are better than those with ADD, AS etc.
Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(is she weird @ Mar 7 2006, 01:33 PM)
Yeah poor me and my ADD  crying.gif  People seem to think it means I'm stupid but I'm not I am intelligent and have a above average IQ so  slap.gif to people who think they are better than those with ADD, AS etc.
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laugh.gif
my entire family is ADD
and yes when people talk to me in real life they usually think I'm pretty dim
cause I jsut don't pay attention and end up saying "huh?" alot
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 7 2006, 10:28 AM)
laugh.gif
yeah you're right about that

the fact is complex sugars aren't the healthiest things in the world
but I still think everyone needs some of them
the protein from carbs are good for your heart and give you energy
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Yeap! Fruits and veggies naturally have carbs in them..but they are healthy carbs. smile.gif
Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(Vinechild @ Mar 7 2006, 01:35 PM)
Yeap! Fruits and veggies naturally have carbs in them..but they are healthy carbs.  smile.gif
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yes they're much better than the carbs you find in breads

I try not to eat anything with white flour in it
and I don't eat white rice, only brown or wild
Mo_Papparani
leave it to McDonald's to keep their customers coming back biologically by addiction rolleyes.gif
wonkytooth
QUOTE(is she weird @ Mar 7 2006, 01:33 PM)
Yeah poor me and my ADD  crying.gif  People seem to think it means I'm stupid but I'm not I am intelligent and have a above average IQ so  slap.gif to people who think they are better than those with ADD, AS etc.
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ADD does NOT mean stupid nor does it mean someone who's constantly bouncing off the walls (tho jane, you might just do that laugh.gif ). it just means for you to retain and learn new information, special accomodations need to be made - whether it's sitting at the front of the room, being given extra time to complete tasks, etc.

people who don't understand and respect differences in others are the stupid ones. rolleyes.gif
wonkytooth
know what i had for lunch? a molasses brown sugar cookie, some lime-flavored tostitos and diet pepsi. i'm like a walking ad for what NOT to eat if you want to be healthy. unsure.gif
is she weird
QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 8 2006, 04:34 AM)
laugh.gif
my entire family is ADD
and yes when people talk to me in real life they usually think I'm pretty dim
cause I jsut don't pay attention and end up saying "huh?" alot
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HAHA my family too!!
Yeah but my siblings all have high IQ and most diffently smart all though my spelling is a sham! laugh.gif But my a my oldest brother and I are complete space cadets........so yeah we never learnt to drive we are to easily distracted, no conscept of time or direction and if someone is talking while I write I have a habit of writing what they say and not realising laugh.gif my brother does it too HAHA!.
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(wonkytooth @ Mar 7 2006, 10:42 AM)
know what i had for lunch? a molasses brown sugar cookie, some lime-flavored tostitos and diet pepsi. i'm like a walking ad for what NOT to eat if you want to be healthy.  unsure.gif
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laugh.gif




QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 7 2006, 10:37 AM)
yes they're much better than the carbs you find in breads

I try not to eat anything with white flour in it
and I don't eat white rice, only brown or wild
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Supposedly brown rice is just as bad. It's just not "bleached" white..thats about it.
Brooklyn Girl
QUOTE(Vinechild @ Mar 7 2006, 01:17 PM)
Not necessarily. It may be new findings on the subject.
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So you know about this but AS doctors don't? This actually isn't new news. This connection between Glutens and AS is a few years old. And doctors know about studies way before the general public does.
Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(Vinechild @ Mar 7 2006, 01:48 PM)
laugh.gif 
Supposedly brown rice is just as bad. It's just not "bleached" white..thats about it.
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ah well I still like it too much to give it up laugh.gif
and it DOES have more nutrients in it

bleaching does a number on foods

oh and Jen
I had Coke, girl scout cookies, and chocolate pudding for lunch so don't feel bad
Vine ♠ Child
QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Mar 7 2006, 10:50 AM)
So you know about this but AS doctors don't? This actually isn't new news. This connection between Glutens and AS is a few years old. And doctors know about studies way before the general public does.
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rolleyes.gif

A few years old is still new news. And maybe not all AS doctors know about it. *shrugs* Who knows!
I just wanna make sure Craig is healthy and happy!
Mo_Papparani
McDonald's is diabolical and evil....

what's so difficult to understand?
Brooklyn Girl
Poor Craig. It sounds like he can hardly eat anything anymore. sad.gif
annie
QUOTE(Aesthetic_Dame @ Mar 8 2006, 04:51 AM)
I've just been reading some crazy shit you guys

apparently McDonalds are being sued for denying that their fries have glutens in em, when they actually do

what does this have to do with anything Vines related?
50% of the population who have an autism spectrum disorder do not have the ability to completely break down gluten
instead they break them down only to a certain unbroken peptide chain which gets in the blood stream
and that specific peptide chain is an opiate (opiates are those lovely drugs that heroin is made up of)
so autistic people who have this problem with glutens become highly addicted to food with glutens in them (ex. McDonalds french fries)

gluten comes from wheat and is found in a lot of food, especially processed food

anyhoo
I just emailed Andy with my finds

don't know if its had any effect on Craig or not but I thought they'd be interested in it over there
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holyy fuck.
Maxwell Demon
QUOTE(Brooklyn Girl @ Mar 7 2006, 01:50 PM)
So you know about this but AS doctors don't? This actually isn't new news. This connection between Glutens and AS is a few years old. And doctors know about studies way before the general public does.
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studies have been made on it since the 80's but its only been recently that they've known what exactly the gluten does
it used to be ignored alot past childhood because it used to be only linked to developmental problems
the fact that it can be bad for adults is basically pretty new stuff they've come out with and when it comes to something like that it usually takes doctors in general a while to get used to checking for it and whatnot
though I'm sure Craig has probably been checked for it seeing as his doctor is a world renowned expert
or at least he probably WILL be checked for it

when it comes to something like autism there are alot of stuff people have to do working on their behavior and getting to understand whats going on before they take such huge steps as completely changing the way they eat
which is even harder for autism patients seeing that they are extremely resistant to change
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