The Vines are in this week's NME..as of Nov 2nd, 2005.


The Vines have overcome the traumas of recent years and completed their third album. The band have just ended a four-week stint in Sydney's BJB studios with producer Wayne Connelly, and made an album he says is "edgier and wilder".
The sessions mark a return to action for The Vines, who looked on the verge of collapse when frontman Craig Nicholls was diagnosed with asperger's syndrome.
"There's a bunch of different styles on this record", Connelly told NME. "Craig's got a bit of that space-rock stuff, but he's also got some intense wild punk rock. There's some pop stuff with strings too. He's always been a big fan of that lush production."
Working titles include "Nothing's Coming", "Any Sound" and "Take Me Back". Relations within the band are fine too, says Connerly.
"The morale's been great. Craig doesn't really devote himself to the serious issues of the day, he devotes most of his energy to hiding behind doors and scaring people. It's great to see his eccentric, playful side."
Bassist Patrick Matthews has played no role in the making of the album since his side project Youth Group took off. However, the rest of the band say he's welcome to rejoin them if he wants to.
The album is expected to be released next year, though management have gone on record as saying that the band will "never" go on a traditional tour again.



P.S. I hope this hasnt been posted already, I found it at a craig lj.

aww, that's great, c, thanks for posting here!

it's great to hear such positive things from their producer, since he's been with them day in and day out, and i'm especially excited to see some song titles in there - yay!! i know andy k said it would be more loud and raw, but i'm glad to see craig has worked some strings on there as well - bless him.

as to the bit about craig hiding behind doors and scaring people... gotta love him.

edit: here's a cover of that particular issue in case any of you should go looking for it.

Aint it great? Song titles and space-rock? and intense wild punk rock?

And what does craig do? Hide behind doors then jump out at people and scare the crap outta them? So childlike! I love it!

that's interesting too what they said about still being open to pat rejoining them. if he didn't play on the album with them, what would he 'rejoin' them for? playing some live dates maybe? hmm...maybe that's why they've never announced a 'replacement' bassist. they're not sure if they're actually going to need one.

oh, i'm just so excited!! every little new piece of news makes me...

Ooooh yeah thats right! They would have to mean live concert dates! What else?

Awww this made my day, thankyou so much for posting it Vinechild!!

I read it at an LJ community and I pissed my pants with sheer happiness. This is so great. It's so fantastic to see there's already a few song titles!! Things like that just *show* how close we're getting to that wonderful third album. 'Cause wonderful it shall be.

And aww, I can totally picture Craig hiding behind doors, scaring people. He's such a cute little weirdo. *goes starry-eyed*

I'm so-fucking-excited right now.

Oh, I love scaring people. I devote most my my time to that, too.

Scaring my 2 year old cousin is the best, though. She just laughs.

It's her birthday, today.
Right now, I'm schooling her on the fine art of Craig Nicholls, and The Vines. She saw me on the forum, and she was like "Craig! Craig!" So I decided to let her whatch my collection of The Vines videos. haha

She LOVES him. She gets really obsessive about him, and shes only two! haha You can defintly tell she has good tastes in music, already. lol


I'm excited their new album is done. And that Craig seems happy. The titles, though, don't seem like this music is like the other stuff.. The titles to the old songs are a lot more natury, and these don't seem too natury. lol But that's ok. I bet they will still be GREAT.

Oh wow! This is so unbelievably incredible!!! They've finished up the album! Craig's been scaring people ( ), the album is sounding edgy and wild, and we've been told some of the song titles! Argh! Can't wait to hear it!
And I'm with Jen - I find it a bit odd that they'd say Pat was welcome back after they'd finished recording . And hasn't Pat said very clearly that he doesn't want to go back? From Spin: As far as reports that The Vines are continuing on with their third record, Matthews confirms, "Yes they are," but adds that he isn't keeping up with his former band's search for a new bassist: "I kind of keep my eyes closed."
Oh well, it's great to hear that the guys have finished!
'Nothing's Coming', 'Any Sound', 'Take Me Back' - even the track titles (or a least working titles) sound great - can't wait to hear the actual music!
Thank you so much for posting Vinechild!

Wow, that's such great news. Can't believe it this made my day, just hearing the songtitles made me smile....yepii *jumps up and down*

and thanks vinechild for posting this.

training her young, eh? i like that.



they also make a point in the piece of saying "'Relations within the band are fine too,' says Connelly. 'The morale's been great.'" which sounds to me like they're wanting to show the band have moved past all the inner-relationship drama from last year and are focusing on moving forward with their music - with or without patrick. the band/mgmt were probably asked point blank by nme if patrick was in or out and how they felt about that, and by making him sound welcome back at any time, they keep things on an 'up' note. smart.

Oh
my
God.


This is great. New pics and and now there album is finished and they even give you song titles. I'm hella happy right now.

wait, is that magazine not sold in the US?

"never" go on a traditional tour again?

what does that mean...

I want to see them live so badly! So, they like not leaving Australia? But I understand of course, why they don't want to.

I'm amazed they finished the new album though, I can't wait for it to come out!

This made my otherwise depressing day.

I think it means....like no 3 month long tour....being away from home for months at a time......I think they will still play live....well I hope.

THIS IS SOOO GREAT! im so glad to hear this, it makes me so happy to find new stuff out.
its great to know a bit about the album, and some song titles!
wyane seems cool, i love what he said about Craig "eccentric, playfull side" hiding behind doors, that would be so funny to see

xautumnxshade your cousin's sounds very cute

...I just started shaking a bit...
heehee. craig's awesome
I'm glad they're all happy it makes me that much happier
but I hope patrick not being there didn't change their sound too much

^ I'm sure it wouldn't have since Craig does the writing. Maybe the bass parts might be a little different than they would have been, but I don't think it'll be noticeable .

On a random side note, I just looked up BJB studios and it stands for Big Jesus Burger Studios, what a brilliant name .

^ haha! that's funny!

I lot of Oz bands have recorded there recently....it seems quite popular.

My brain went all !!!!!!!!!!!! when I read that. Thanks for posting! ^___^

haha I know.. I love her so much.

She lets me scare her as many times as I want, and she just cracks up and goes "Again! Again!" and lets me scare her more.. haha


But, I'm very excited for this album. Today was very good because of this news. lol But I'm also worried..

I mean by that, I'm afraid Craig's music might be different, since he got diagnosed. After you get diagnosed, you are put into an environment that it comfortable and well suited to you, and surrounded by things that are supposed to make you happy. And I hope that's what happened with Craig, because I want him to be happy, and his happiness is more important than his music, but I'm saying that now that he has probably been put into situations well suited for him, that is going to affect his music - whether it is in a positive way, or not. and thats what I'm worried for.

Like, the new song titles seem different than MOST of the other song titles, so I'm kind of wondering if the music will be different, too, and possible less diverse, since he wont be able to feel diverse feeling, only feelings of like happiness and contentness.

I don't know if I'm making sense to anyone. haha But what I'm basically trying to say is I know Craig is happy, now, from what they said. And that makes me happy. But I also have a feeling his new music will be different from his old music - but not necessarily in a bad way. I'm basically saying it's good if his new music is different, because it adds variety, and stuff, but I also don't know what its like, I guess.

I don't know. I worry about things, too much. And think about things too much. So I don't think I'm acctually making too much sense, though it makes sense to me, so I'll just be quiet, now. haha

nme generates out of england. it's sold at places like 'barnes & noble,' 'borders,' and newsagents that carry international mags.

maybe someone here will get it and scan for the rest of us. *hint hint you uk-ers*



most bands tour a year+ to support their latest release - the vines toured for nearly two years in support of 'highly evolved'!! - but they won't be doing that anymore. there's no guarantee they'll play any more live shows, but we're hoping they will do a few, whether it just be in oz or limited touring around oz and a few other places like the u.s., uk or europe. it'll depend on craig, i would think.



i see what you're getting at, shayla, but what we won't know until we hear it. we're vines fans, we love the music they've released so far, and i personally trust craig's songwriting ability to believe i'll love his new songs - whether they sound similar or different to what we've heard from the band in the past or not.

craig wrote most of HE and WD pre-fame, so of course his state of mind now is different from then - regardless of the AS diagnosis. any band who's gone from obscurity to international acclaim gets their head messed with - but i believe in craig's talent, and i want to believe vines mgmt isn't just spinning a tale when they say these songs sound amazing. just think...six months from now, we may know all this for ourselves.

I understand what you mean

I dunno, like, I probably sound like a jerk saying this, but I think like syndromes like ADD and or AS, are flukes. They just slap a label on someone cuz they're eccentric or anti-social. Maybe it's just who they are, leave them alone.

That's my opinion though, and I'm sure somebody's gonna tell me that they're scientifically proven or something, but I stand by what I said.

I have ADD it is not a fucking fluke!!

see, I knew someone was gonna bite my head off for saying that

I'm not trying to offend anyone, just my opinion, I have a right to it don't I

I wouldn't get mad at that, and I won't. I also agree it is pretty stupid, and I want to disown my diagnosis, a lot of the time, but I also don't think it's a fluke.

I mean, yes, it may seem like a common thing, like thats how everyone acts - only on different levels, but people with AS also have physical characturistics that are different.

For example, they may walk different, or talk different. Like, my voice is just plain. Like, not necessarily monotone, but It's like flat. I hate it, and I also can't really see how it is related to AS, but I guess it is, because thats what I was told. I also had never walked with an arm swing my entire life, and I got picked on in elementary school, a lot. My "friends" picked on me the most, though. That makes me mad, because they were SUPPOSED to be my friends, but they werent.. they were my "friends".

Well, they always told me I walked retarded, and they would always try to "teach" me how to walk. It annoyed me, but they all ganged up on me, and I always felt like something was wrong with me that a group of people would act like that towards me, and all agree on it, and everything. They made me feel stupid, a lot.

Also, people with AS have diffferent brain patterns. Like, they have very excellent memory, and can recall encyclopidiac amounts of information. And I know that seems like "normal" people can do that, too, but it's also different. It's hard to explain how, exactly, its different, but there is a difference, no matter how insignifigant that different may seem.

But I respect your opinion, and I have my own, too. Sometimes I think that, too. I question it, and I say "these people are all crack heads.. they make no sense.." But, despite how I may think that sometimes, I do think there is something about me that is different from most, if not all, of the people that I know, and it fits the description of AS, so I'm beliving it. lol

look, I have nothing against the people with the syndromes, I'm actually defending them against society that is labeling them, in my opinion

Well, that's all I'm going to say about that, before I start seeing pitchforks outside my house

I agree. And you made me feel better by saying that. lol I do trust in Craig's songwriting ability, as well, and I'm just excited and nervous to hear this album.

haha.. I've got no pitchforks. Jane seems pretty mad, though. haha But I understand what you are getting at, and I appriciate that you don't want people being labeled.

I hate labels, and especially to label people, and their behavior, thats just messed up. But I guess it's "necessary", or else they wouldn't do it.

I don't know how the world works. haha
But I'm not mad. I would't be. lol I respect that you think that, and I even said I do, sometimes, too. But I also think you would have to HAVE the syndrome or whatever and see it from that perspective, because thats the only way you'll really know, and I think thats what Jane is getting at.

So, I hear everyones opinions, and discussions, and stuff. lol And I agree with it, and have my own opinions, as well. and thats ok. lol

you're right about the whole perspective thing, and I understand, like I said before, I sounded like a jerk, wasn't trying to be tho, I hope Jane understands and forgives me! ha, but thanks for sharing that tho, I now have a better understanding

It's ok. It's important to talk and understand eachother, because thats the only way you'll really know how other people are feeling, and stuff.

I'm sure Jane will forgive you.



And I don't think you sounded like a jerk. It's just opinions. lol You're entitled to yours, and you arent a jerk for it.

That's great. I'll see if I can swing by the local B&N and pick up a copy for myself, if this scanner deal will work then I'd gladly scan it and post it up on here. That is, supposing that my local B&N actually carries NME...I really can't remember if they do or not.

Thats is amazingly good news. I wish they sold NME here, I'd be out picking it up right now if they did.




I think you are a very intellegent person, xautumnxshade. I agree with everything you said. Although there are often misdiagnosises () disorders like AS and ADD definitely exist. There is more to them than being "odd" or "eccentric". They were born with their brain wired in a different way, and theres nothing they can do to change that. In the case of AS, there are a whole lot of symptoms that seem completely unrelated, such as a good memory, sensory sensitivity, and strange accents. This suggests a lot more than just being different to the norm.

::hides behind a door::

Ahhh Lizzy!!! you scared me!

This is such amazing news!!! I am so excited and it sounds like everything is going so well! I'm so proud of them and that they are done recording . The thing about Pat is weird, I agree. Nice to see Craig acting playful rather than too serious about things. AND nice to see such a positive article about them!! I'm so happy with that!



Are there really new pics with this?

Man...I hope Patrick rejoins. I don't want him to quit the band. THe Vines will never be the Vines again if that happens

is that supposed to be craig in your avatar? if so, pure genius!!

liza was referring to the pics allie had posted in the pic thread.


except for in a few major cities, the most recent nme usually isn't available in the states until a week or two later.

YAY!!!! i can't wait. thanks for sharing!!! that put a smile on my face. it doesn't seem like a bad split with patrick leaving i mean. it seems as though pat just wanted to do other things for a bit. hopefully he's come back but it's a shame that he wasn't involved on the album at all. it'll be strange to see the vines patrickless i dont wanna think about it. but but but GREAT GREAT NEWS!!!!!

yeah! Haha! I took a pic of Homer strangling bart and edited it into homer strangling craig.

You have every right to your opinion and I totally respect it. I do have severe ADD (as an adult) and I can tell you that most of what you read is bullshit and most people that are diagnosed with it don't have it at all. I'm sure AS has the same problems. There are some disorders that are not properly understood and as a result people think they mean something they don't and it gets overdiagnosed. I can tell by spending time with someone if they actually have it or not. If you really have it you can always see it in others.

With that said, real ADD can be well treated with proper routine and exercise. I personally need Ritalin but contrary to popular belief, it does not slow me down or anything. It's speed....all it does for me is help make me feel more focused and organised, but I'm still as high strung.

Anyway, I guess my only real point is that it is real but I totally see your point since over 90% of people who are diagnosed with it, don't really have it. It's a scapegoat to drug kids into submission most of the time.

ha ha yea, I agree with that, the whole submission thing

but I dunno, probably to some extent, they are true in extreme cases

Now I don't feel as stupid when I do that in my Algebra class!

Since Patrick didn't take any part in making the album, I'm guessing some studio guy played bass on the tracks then, right?

ummm thank you very much for those informations,that's so cool !

i hope the song's titles..i'm sure that this new album is gonna rock...i'm looking forward to buy it...

i'm so happy to read such positive things about them and to see that craig is fine (scaring people like i do) !
But u hate the word "never":(

Here is my process. This is what I will do. I know this, because this is what I always do. lol

I will buy the CD, the day it comes out. Then, I will be indecisive, and try to decide when I should listen to it. I won't listen to it right away, and when I do, I'll wait until I am alone. Until I decide I want to listen to the album, I won't come on the Forum. I'm not really sure why I would not come on the forum, but when I'm decided when to do stuff, like this, and preparing myself, I just disconnect myself from everything associating with it, for a while.

Well, this process could take weeks, or more, or less. It varies. lol But I can't feel obligated to do it, like I have to. I'll just do it when I'm ready.

I'm weird. lol But thats what I will do. Thats what I always do, with everything. I have like these big, long processes with everything. lol

grrr... they still sell the old NME here

well

^ most areas in the states don't get issues of nme until a week or two after its come out...that means i've got awhile to wait. thank god for the internet, eh?



i get what you're saying, but i don't have the willpower not to listen as soon as i get my grubby little mitts on that new cd. i'll be ripping the cellophane off as i walk to the car, and i will probably sit in my car in the store parking lot and listen to it all the way through - trying not to wet my knickers from excitement.

like you, i do want to listen to it and experience it on my own before reading what others say - i'll be excited to read everyone's opinions about the album as a whole and individual songs, but there's just something about hearing those tracks for the first time without any preconceived notions that makes it that much more special.

I'll probably buy the album, come straight home, pop it into the computer come on here and post 46781637218 posts saying things like

"OMGz did you hear that!"
"This song is sweet shit"
"whoa..."
"::runs around in circles::"