I feel a little bit silly really....
I bought "Highly Evolved" way back in '02, listened to it, liked it and never thought much about it after that. Only until recently have I listened to it all the way through again and like the topic title states - WOW! It has to be honestly, one of the greatest albums I've ever heard. ever. It starts off with a bang and it just doesn't let up...Highly Evolved, Factory, Outtathaway! and In The Jungle being the standouts imo - I think i'm in love. uhhh anyway, The Vines now sit comfortably in my favorite top3 bands which also contains in no particular order, Radiohead and The Cooper Temple Clause.

Hello btw!

hey welcome to the forum! wow i c wat you mean about the vines album, highly evolved. its just beyond words to explain. when i got it i fell in love with it totally! have you heard the other album winning days?! you should get that as well its really good!
oo yea radiohead rox!

Yeah you should listen to Winning Days, it's even better! (in my opinion)

When I first got Highly Evolved, I also listened to it, thought it was pretty good, and then moved on. But then when I heared Winning Days (the song) I realised how brilliant they were. I listened to Highly Evolved over and over and loved it more each time. It's the kind of album that really grows on you. I've been obsessed with them ever since!

Welcome!

What languages do you speak? just my first question as always...

Higly Evolved sure kicks f*** ass!!!

I'm not sure if Winning Days is better...somehow before it was released I expected it to be more on the heavy side
Don't get me wrong, I love it! (Autumn Shade II, WOW!)

I wonder what this new album is going to be like...

*slight feeling of apprehension creeps in

Oh, I'm sure it will be awesome, but (and I've said this before), I wouldn't like The Vines to drift towards this more "poppy" - I hate this word! - sound...



btw I LOVE Radiohead


and... welcome to the forum, minefield

aw, i love to read when peeps fall in love with bands for the first time - especially bands as deserving as the vines. that's pretty much how i felt the first time i listened to HE all the way thru - i couldn't stop listening, cos track after track i was like . it was all just so good.

welcome to the forum.

i know im soo eager to know how the next album is gonna be. i want it to have the variety that exists on both the albums. from heavy to poppy ** i apologize for using that word **. highly evolved along with WD just keeps growin on you exactly how you said loaded mind. its one of those special ones that gets better and better each time you hear it! just amzing!!!!!

I've listened to Highly Evolved countless of times since I bought it almost 3 years ago
I wonder when I'll even begin to be bored with it


(no sign of it yet )

I've been asking myself the same question, haha. Highly Evolved hasn't left the CD player in my car since '02.....mind you it's a six disc changer and I've of course been listening to other CDs..but it's always there when I get those cravings haha

It's always like i need to listen them, both albums it's the only music whichi make me feel so high and good!!

your CAR CD player?? Wait a sec...

When I'm listening to them I trip out, like, totally...
I know that *I* wouldn't be able to concentrate on the driving, no way...

"Don't listen to The Vines and drive", that's my motto

heehee.... when you're right, you're right Vinny! Tripping out to The Vines is among my favorite past times.. however being alone in my room with some good reefer is the best way to go about it, in my case. When I'm on the road..I'm a bit more concentrated..plus I got the rumble strips to keep me on the road! haha..

Well, *I* can do without pot...Autumn Shade II is an instant high for me, I don't need anything else

Thats good! But for those of us who suffer from deprovision.. it's a good way to help you sleep...and good lord do you get a good night sleep!

Vinny you're so right. I also listen to the Vines while driving. When I listen to Autumn Shade II or Amnesia I feel like closing my eyes and drifting away to another place. Therefire, its probably not best to do when I'm driving. From now on I will only listen to them in the safety of my own bedroom, where I can trip out safely.

yeah its one of those albums u never get tired of

Thanks for the warm reception guys!



I was slightly underwhelmed with Winning Days to be honest, it didnt seem to pack the same punch Highly Evolved did. Sparks are flying all over the place with HE - WD had alot to live upto I guess. Still all their songs seem to reflect Craigs state of mind and I have been meaning to give it another shot. Everyone does seem to be raving on about "Autumn ShadeII"
Soon.......

And speaking of Criag's states of mind: I have really high hopes for their upcoming album, "poppy" sound or not. Craig went nuts last year (apparantly) and it sounds like he has been inspired again, I cant wait.




Just the very versatile English...plus a few dirty phrases in Spanish and Maltesse


Its nice to know there are Radiohead fans here! Yet another soundtrack for life. FOREVER.

The only thing that I don't like about W.D. is that it is too short
If there was one more - heavy - song on it...I'd be much happier

ah well...


RADIOHEAD are going to release their new album early next year as well

Can you have too much of a good thing?
*I* can't

omg next year is gonna be such an awesome year. having both a new album from the vines and radiohead!!!!!!!!!! goodd im so not patient: i want the albums now!!!!!!!! lol

and yea i know what you guys mean about WD. i think its more calm than HE. but still both of them are just amazing. i would go nuts if i only had one to listen to.
i love how it just makes you drift away into your own world. its great!
i have this line "are you such a dreamer?" from radiohead stuck in my head!!!! i keep sayin it over and over.

all of the songs on both HE and WD were written before HE was even recorded - the vines basically could've put out a double album for their debut if they'd recorded all craig had written - so craig's state of mind was technically the same for both albums. all those songs were written pre-fame. the producer, of course, was the same too ( ). some people would say they chose the first-rate songs for HE, and the leftovers for WD, but that wasn't how they went about it. from what i've read, capitol pushed for the first album to have the biggest range of styles and radio-friendly singles, which left WD with mostly heavy or ballady/psychedelic style songs. HE did blow me away with its variety - all that coming from one band! - but personally i think WD has the stronger songs (tv pro, asII, winning days, amnesia). of course, which is the better album is all a matter of opinion in the end.

this third album will be the first to reflect craig's state of mind post-making it big and all the subsequent drama. according to mgmt, the songs are heavier and that probably does reflect where craig has been at mentally in the past year. we're all obvs excited to hear new material.

im in a band with a few friends and i was told about the vines by my cousin in 2002 ever since then i have thought of them as gods. Now our band comits our self to playing the vines songs (of corse weve got nothin on "the vines")listening to their music


NICHOLLS IS THE MAN!!!!!!

He is ''The Boy Who Fell To Earth'' from god of course....

What is your fave Vines song (songs) then?



btw welcome to the forum

wouldnt hes songs be hard to mimick seeming as thouh he is a god...

I remember when I first bought Highly Evolved & Winning Days, and I listened to them, and I just fell in love!

I got Winning Days befor i got Highly Evolved weired but i was shoked by the amount i had to pay for Highly Evolved i paid $30 but hay the moneys going to them..

Eh..I got Winning Days first..

I found it in a little town in a Target store and was like.."Hey..might as well get this..looks nice and colorful and I remember that ride song"

Yep..then I fell in love with them..and what is ca-razy..is I heard Get Free when it came out and loved it.but I never knew who sang it..till like..a year and a half ago..

So I just recently got Highly Evolved..

l love all their songs but.... my favs at the moment are "Get Free", "Country Yard","Winning Days","Autumn Shade(1&2)",and "Ride"

Im the drummer in the band that "Craig_Nicholls_Is_God" is in we only play the vines(mostly) and some nirvana.
i love watchin the vines play and i would love to meat them

haha meat them!! Come to sydney!!
I was in a vines cover band 2 years ago...we sucked!

my sister got me into the vines ever since they started and since I'm heaps younger then probably a lot of you here, i wudda been really young when they first got big. Ever since then I have bought every vines thing I've ever seen . Out of the two albums, I prefer Highly Evolved, Why? I don't know? Maybe it's because it's their first?

I remember just before Winning Days came out their was all this hype about it, so when I was in Borders I listened to Highly Evolved on the listening post thingies, but I was only just starting to get into music, so I didn't buy it. Fast forward 6 months and a friend burnt me Winning Days and I loved it so much I bought Highly Evolved the next day. I loved it, but it's really only been my absolute favourite album since yesterday, when I played it and realised that it was about ten times better than my previous favourite album (and now second favourite - Definitely Maybe, by Oasis) .

That was long and rambling. The point was, of course, that it is brilliant.

"To put the world to rights? I stay home forever
Where two and two always makes up five"

Yep its gonna be bliss having two of my most anticipated albums being released - its only a matter of time now!
Have you ever seen Radiohead live sweeTcraiGloveR? As cheesy as it sounds it is defintately a night that will stay with me for the rest of my life. Unbelievable.

I wonder where the Vines would be if they put out Winning Days first and then Highly Evolved? Would they be a bigger, more famous band or would fans complain that the Vines are confused because WD had a certain sound and HE is all over the place? I guess we'll never know but it makes you think.

Wow thats deep, Linda .......you just blow my mind I keep thinking about it now.

Me deep?

At first I was like Then I rember that all there songs were written before HE so their first record shaoed their whole career..........which tripped coz I'm a musican and if I ever get to make a reacord their is a shit losd riding on it.
So yes you are deep!!

i know!!! no unfortunetly i havent had the chance to c them live yet. im pretty sad bout that! omg your so lucky!!!!!!!!!!! thats so not cheesy if i were you i would braggin bout it all the time ! lol radiohead is just <<speechless>> everything! of course along with the vines.
when did you catch one of their concerts?!
<<btw i lov that lyric "where 2 and 2 always makes 5>>

That's a good motto. I have 2 major rules to live by but that might just be number three:

1.NEVER open your door if Michael Moore is knocking (I can't imagine I'd ever do anything to make him come after me, but just to be on the safe side).

2. NEVER EVER EVER do ANYTHING illegal while in the presence of Peter Doherty (someone's gonna have a camera and the tabloids are gonna find out and you'll be finished before you even began).

3. DO NOT listen to The Vines while driving ( the blissed-out-trance-state they induce could have deadly consequences. It would be awful to mow down a couple of innocent pedestrians as Winning Days is crescending, yes?).

And what if the CD skips as you roll over them? *covers face in horror*

Can I, like, marry you?!?!?

Only if we can walk down the aisle to Winning Days...


Hmm... I don't think they'd have had that huge bubble of hype if they'd gone with WD first. I think they'd have had a slower rise to fame, but then again a big thing with The Vines popularity is their live performances. They copped a lot of flack over that aspect, and maybe that still would have influenced people against them? Then again maybe if they'd had a slower rise they wouldn't have been pushed as hard to tour and maybe they wouldn't have had as much tension within the band as a result? I've never thought about what would have happened if they'd changed the order they released the albums before. I think I'm going to be thinking about that for a while now, in between thinking about what will happen with their 3rd album. I'm really hoping that it goes well for the guys.

*wins the prize for excessive use of the word 'think'*

WD had as much variety as HE - think about the four lead-off songs (ride, animal machine, tv pro, asII) which are nothing alike. WD just didn't have as radio-friendly singles as HE. the hype machine was in full effect - nme was featuring them every week well before HE was released - and everyone was going on about the new garage rock revolution, and lumping them in with it, so i'm inclined to think WD would have blown up just as big. it's one of those deals where the time was just right for the band.

keep in mind too, most of the other bands singled out in the garage rock revolution of 2002 - the strokes, white stripes, hives - didn't do near as well with their follow-ups either. most had the same percentage drop-off in sales, the difference is they remained critical darlings while the vines took a hit from the critics. more pressure seems to be riding on the vines as a result, cos it's like they've got to prove to fans and critics they're still worth giving a listen to.

I still think HE was more diverse than WD. I get what you're saying about the garage rock revolution but it seems like the critics have been harder on the Vines than with any of the other bands. Perhaps it was because they weren't aware of Craig's condition and they assumed he was just a rock star brat? It will be interesting to see how the press will approach him this time around.

Yeah I think there will be plenty of smart arse remarks and people treating like one big aspergers

there better not be, or they'll have me to answer too!

It was their first concert in Sydney at the end of last year sometime. It's funny how you've got the lyrics from 2+2=5 stuck in your head cos thats the first track they played -I'm sure I dont have to illustrate how awesome it was (I would have to invent a new way to speak really).... My personal favorite was Idioteque <- this track live is like you said <<speechless>>. download it if you can, probably the BBC or Berlin versions - its all good!

Oh and can anyone tell me where I can download the clip of The Vines playing Get Free on the Late show? I've used that link to the CBS site and its down atm - I'm dying to see that clip, it's the infamous one where Craig throws himself onto the drums at the end, or so I've been told.....

I think you're in the wrong thread.

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ooo nice! they r one of the most amazing unique bands among lots of others! i hope theyll be touring soon youuuu luckyyy minefield!