Somehow I've been wondering about it lately...
I've even looked at the lyrics from this angle, and I found the following:

In the Jungle

In the jungle you can sleep
with the commandments at your feet
where the devil lays his hand


Amnesia

God's love ain't forever. He'll set us free


I wonder if there is some deeper meaning in all this
Especially the In the Jungle bit is somehow thought-provoking...

if by 'do the vines believe in god?' you mean 'does craig believe in god?,' i'd say you can take the boy out of the catholic church but you can't take the catholism outta the boy. or something like that. it's probably more to do with being raised in the church with a catholic school education - other than that, they've never discussed religion much in interviews. not seriously anyway - re: acoustic guitars are the devil's instrument, right?

Haha, I love that quote . How was the flight by the way? Hope it wasn't too boring for you and welcome back to the forum!

Edit: Sorry Vinny I'm already taking your thread off topic

the flight was horrendous, thanks for asking! 26 hours travel time, peeps. if the vines ever only play sydney, i may just count on allie to cover it afterall.

okay, back to religion. aren't there some more god references in lyrics? my travel-tired brain is drawing a blank - i'll have to check.

I DID mean The Vines, but it's actually CRAIG who wrote the lyrics, so...


who said this bit about acoustic guitars being the devil's instument anyway?

Craig said it, but he was lying. Because in the same sentence he said he'd never smash his guitar.

the number of times craig has lied in an interview is a whole nother thread...

he went to a catholic school?? cool.. so do i.. actually.. thats not cool.. but anyway.. im not sure if he believes in God or not.. i just like the songs! hehe

Put it this way, if we were to make a thread about when Craig told the truth in interviews it would be a very short thread.

Welcome back Jen.

Yeep, that doesn't sound fun. At least the flights over now (finally) . Oh, and you know you'll do the flight if it's the only way you'd see The Vines again, so don't give me that .

There was another reference in Sun Child:
"We'll keep our lives reserved for those who have to pray. But I can't."

thanks, tinks. it's good to be back.



catholic school is where he met his girlfriend, ryan!

hahahahah

i think that when u study religion at school its kindda hard not to think about it.. u start wondering a lot.. maybe thats why we writes about it.. but we'll never know really cause he doesnt talk about it in interviews..

and there's something in Country Yard about "the secret garden":
"...there's nothin in the secret garden, just images of blue and white..."

can it be the Garden of Eden, perhaps?





Here we go again! The old Craig and Ryan thing

I didn't have to wait long for THAT!

Two words : Highly Evolved

Well lots of people believe in God. I think if you are raised going to church you kinda believe in God at heart to a certain extent....usually. I went to church as a kid and yeah I believe in God. And I didn't go to catholic school...but who knows.

JEN! -big hug- WEEE! You're back!

Craig once said, "I'm a compulsive liar."

Did he also LIE when he said that? So it would mean...WHAT would it mean?
Oh, it's very confusing...
(And he said THAT too!)

he's called things the devil's something or other is other interviews too
like wasn't there one where he said black was the devil's color or something?

and that one Q&A they all did, when they asked Ryan who his best friend was he said Jesus

He mentioned something about God in the germany select interview...

why do you keep saying this, Tom?

do you mean to say that your time's a riddle that will never be solved?

Oh? what did he say?

He just mentioned God's name, when referring to someone else...
Ugh! I cant remember off the top of my head...! its been a while since i've watched it.

oh never mind


I wonder who that "someone else" was...

Was it John Lennon? It was right at the beginning. I think he was quoting John Lennon or something. I couldn't hear it well coz the quality of the video has a very low volume even when my computer's volume is on full blast. I think he said something like 'I don't want to talk about God right now.' That's what I understood.

^Yeah! That sounds about right.

Highly Evolved

I'm feeling happy so highly evolved
my time's a riddle that will never be solved
dreamin for somethin
reachin for somethin
just waitin for the sun to carry me in

if you feel low
you can buy love
from a payphone
i don't feel low

my brother bill
he work for the market
life is an arrow and now he's the target
dreamin for somethin
reachin for somethin
just waitin for the sun to carry me in

if you feel low
you can buy blow
from a payphone
i don't feel low

Highly Evolved
Highly Evolved
Highly Evolved
Highly Evolved
Highly Evolved
Highly Evolved
Highly Evolved
Highly Evolved
Highly Evolved

Tom, will you fuck the world and ride with me?

Vinny get up and go outside, evil is what you are.

evil? as well as being sharp! I feel right to it

Can't believe they started talking so retarded.

Oh.... we were hiding from the rain and the thunder!

Patience now they're gonna string you out

Oh!
I'm so down I put my head around every noose I see!

I'm lookin' down by the streets end, girl you've been lacking a pretense

Meanwhile, you've been locked in a freezer!
There can't be anything between...




Will you look through me because I am a transparent?

But it really doesn't matter couldn't change it if I tried

I'm beginning to need all that I can't have!


Making time for everyone is what I should have done...

Forget it now forget it then. We'll hang around without a care

so take me away from the corner!


ah...shall we...

walk the fields and stare at the ocean?

Swiss cheese is Holy

Are you tellin' me what you ain't knowin'?

RIDE WITH ME!! RIDE WITH ME!! RIDE WITH ME!!



whoa...


I'm succeeding to speak like I'm fuckin' mad!!!

Don't let it bring you down, i'm hearin voices in the trees , cause I dont know where i've been, it's automatic over me.

Don't feel supreme, awoken by the spirit of the day! C'mon, fuck the world, I know you want it!






In the jungle you can sleep...but I'm running out of time...
Meet you in the morning after daze, soaking the sunrays from the ground

ain't no room for me..in the jungle

Sorry to break up this little game... But what about drown the baptists?
Doesn't that seem kind of anti-christian?
"Who are the baptists? I want to drown them one by one..."
Or it could just be Craig being sarcastic again...

good point. whoa..you know what i just realized?? vinny actually started a somewhat intelligent thread!

i'm just amazed that you can have a whole conversation with Craig's random words. Thats awesome

well... that's the start the middle and the end.
Aren't you glad the universe pretend?

Swiss cheese is Holy