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post Aug 30 2008, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(borgy @ Aug 30 2008, 04:54 PM) *

I doubt they would pull a stunt this stupid when they have a manager who would probably be aware of how the whole public relations thing works and would know pulling a stunt like this would do more damage to their public image then good.

So ... they took off without telling anyone and made people all around worry about them all on their own? That's even dumber.
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post Aug 30 2008, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(daytripper @ Aug 29 2008, 11:27 PM) *

His reply" "Yeah, but if you want consistency, go to a jukebox."
Craig's words are too sophisticated for me to understand really. LOL
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100% publicity stunt which worked quite well for that shit band

If so, I have to admit that succeeded, because I added The Follow's MySpace and checked often these days.
Also my friends, who didn't even know "the Follow" before this, know them now. So It worked. wacko.gif
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post Aug 30 2008, 11:02 PM
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Yep you're a genius. I doubt they would pull a stunt this stupid when they have a manager who would probably be aware of how the whole public relations thing works and would know pulling a stunt like this would do more damage to their public image then good. If they wanted to do a publicity stunt they could have easily put out their album for free on the internet. Quiet a few people already know of this band, they aren't signed to Warner Music for nothing.

Tensions got high during an album recording session and certain band members went away for awhile to cool off. Not really shocking. I'm pretty sure this has probably happened before during the long history of rock n roll.

Exactly.
God, I sure hope that their publicist isn't Stephen Huvane-aka Jennifer Aniston's evil publicist. This whole thing reeks of a publicity stunt.
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post Aug 31 2008, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE(borgy @ Aug 31 2008, 12:54 AM) *

Yep you're a genius. I doubt they would pull a stunt this stupid when they have a manager who would probably be aware of how the whole public relations thing works and would know pulling a stunt like this would do more damage to their public image then good. If they wanted to do a publicity stunt they could have easily put out their album for free on the internet. Quiet a few people already know of this band, they aren't signed to Warner Music for nothing.

Tensions got high during an album recording session and certain band members went away for awhile to cool off. Not really shocking. I'm pretty sure this has probably happened before during the long history of rock n roll.


wait.... so what happened...?
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post Aug 31 2008, 02:33 AM
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wait.... so what happened...?

The action is all over here.

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post Aug 31 2008, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Aug 31 2008, 01:18 AM) *

So ... they took off without telling anyone and made people all around worry about them all on their own? That's even dumber.


You're not taking into account the whole situation leading up to them leaving. That's even dumber.
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post Aug 31 2008, 09:28 AM
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Oh yes, because taking off without telling anyone is ALWAYS the mature thing to do. I mean, really - they didn't exactly have a choice, right? There's no way that they could have acted like reasonable people and sat down and *gasp* TALKED IT THROUGH. No, disappearing because ~analogue recording~ put too much pressure on their poor artistic souls was OBVIOUSLY their only escape.
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post Aug 31 2008, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Aug 31 2008, 07:28 PM) *

Oh yes, because taking off without telling anyone is ALWAYS the mature thing to do. I mean, really - they didn't exactly have a choice, right? There's no way that they could have acted like reasonable people and sat down and *gasp* TALKED IT THROUGH. No, disappearing because ~analogue recording~ put too much pressure on their poor artistic souls was OBVIOUSLY their only escape.
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Maybe if you actually knew what studio recording (especially when using analogue) was like and how much of a frustrating and draining experience it can be despite how easy it may sound to the uneducated person in that area, then you'd know why someone could just walk away like that. talking it through is not an option for some people different people different ways of taking it... so rolleyes.gif x 2000000000000000000 at
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post Aug 31 2008, 10:39 AM
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I may not know much about recording itself, but what I do know is that a vast (and I mean, VAST) majority of bands that have gone through the process of recording, as well as the bands that have worked with Launay in particular, did not throw a fit, pack their toys and run away, making it to national news in the progress; so I really don't see why you're trying to make it sound as if analogue recording automatically earns you some kind of a martyr status.

EDIT: Oooh, nice work with the x 2000000000000000000 bit. That hurt in the worst possible way.
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post Aug 31 2008, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Aug 31 2008, 08:39 PM) *

I may not know much about recording itself, but what I do know is that a vast (and I mean, VAST) majority of bands that have gone through the process of recording, as well as the bands that have worked with Launay in particular, did not throw a fit, pack their toys and run away, making it to national news in the progress; so I really don't see why you're trying to make it sound as if analogue recording automatically earns you some kind of a martyr status.

EDIT: Oooh, nice work with the x 2000000000000000000 bit. That hurt in the worst possible way.


Each band is different yet again, The only reason they made national headlines is because the media feed and have an erection for news that is usually bad -- look no further than the Vines a few years ago for an indication or the death of Heath Ledger.

I'm not trying to make it seem like analogue recording earns you martyr status but if you are a perfectionist (like this band seem to be) then working with such a frustrating recording format (that is also expensive) can be the straw that breaks the camels back especially if there is already high tension in a band. For most bands music is their life not just a hobby. Launay isn't meant to be playing the father figure, he's the producer responsible for the sound of the record so what bands do isn't his problem.

It wasn't meant to hurt. It was taking the piss.
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post Aug 31 2008, 12:09 PM
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I'm not arguing that they've had problems or whatever, but come on, there are so many ways to constructively try to solve a problem. Running away was not the only choice they had left, and it certainly wasn't the best one. Here's an idea, if you're not capable of sitting down and discussing your problems like grown-ups do, at least, I don't know, TELL people that you're going away for a while? How hard is it to say: "Hey, you know what, I've had it with you, I'm fucking taking a break and going to x" (and slam the door, if you're feeling particularly cocky at the time)? What they did was irresponsible and really flippin' stupid, regardless of what sort of ~torture~ they felt they were going through.
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QUOTE(borgy @ Aug 31 2008, 10:23 AM) *

Maybe if you actually knew what studio recording (especially when using analogue) was like and how much of a frustrating and draining experience it can be despite how easy it may sound to the uneducated person in that area, then you'd know why someone could just walk away like that. talking it through is not an option for some people different people different ways of taking it... so rolleyes.gif x 2000000000000000000 at


Oh sweet Jesus on a loaded bicycle, here comes the 'serious artist' wank. Say whatever you want about studio recording being stressful (which I believe entirely), it still takes a certain type of person to casually walk off without letting anyone know their whereabouts. I believe that either the term 'attention seeker' or 'antisocial drama queen' suffices in cases like these.


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post Aug 31 2008, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(Feedums @ Aug 31 2008, 08:16 AM) *

Oh sweet Jesus on a loaded bicycle, here comes the 'serious artist' wank. Say whatever you want about studio recording being stressful (which I believe entirely), it still takes a certain type of person to casually walk off without letting anyone know their whereabouts. I believe that either the term 'attention seeker' or 'antisocial drama queen' suffices in cases like these.

What next? Jess and Azaria getting married to squash the rumors of Jess being a lesbian (BTW, there's some pretty telling photos of Jess and Ruby Rose out!)?
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feedums i am sorry you had to find out about me and evie dee on the forum, i know how much what we had meant to you, and i'd do anything to get those days back. but unfortunately i'm not sure if it can ever be the same, so we'll just have to be friends. i'm sorry. sad.gif


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feedums i am sorry you had to find out about me and evie dee on the forum, i know how much what we had meant to you, and i'd do anything to get those days back. but unfortunately i'm not sure if it can ever be the same, so we'll just have to be friends. i'm sorry. sad.gif

Sounds like you have several gf's on this board. I'm just glad to be one of them. smile.gif icon12.gif You!
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QUOTE(MisplacedKeys @ Aug 31 2008, 08:09 AM) *

....TELL people that you're going away for a while? How hard is it to say: "Hey, you know what, I've had it with you, I'm fucking taking a break and going to x" (and slam the door, if you're feeling particularly cocky at the time)? What they did was irresponsible and really flippin' stupid, regardless of what sort of ~torture~ they felt they were going through.


I agree. Failure to tell people where you are going or use a sign out sheet on studio time is punishable by lots of publicity. rolleyes.gif They should take their instruments away for being that irresponsible. smile.gif

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Craig's words are too sophisticated for me to understand really. LOL
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I think he meant you'll get more from the jukebox than the deli counter.


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Borgy - call it dumb, stupid whatever.

This was a publicity stunt. Nothing more, nothing less. It worked well, but they are still shit.

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if this does turn out to be a publicity stunt my last words are - they need to fire their manager.

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QUOTE(borgy @ Aug 31 2008, 05:23 AM) *

Maybe if you actually knew what studio recording (especially when using analogue) was like and how much of a frustrating and draining experience it can be despite how easy it may sound to the uneducated person in that area, then you'd know why someone could just walk away like that. talking it through is not an option for some people different people different ways of taking it... so rolleyes.gif x 2000000000000000000 at



they were surprised when they played it back and realized they still suck? thays why she stressed and walked aways...


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